Theos-Talk Archives (January 2005 Message tt00279)

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@y...> wrote:
> Dear Christina
> Sorry, I misinterpreted your meaning. We are both on the same wave 
length now.  
>>
That is the question ! For now maybe, but ......
In your next message I think that there is one Adi = one level of the 
all knowing,allpower and all being.

After that there is a level of the immortals = Anupudaka.

And after that there are 3 levels that can be reached by the human
to know: Atma -Buddhi - Manas The supreme, the intuitive and the 
thought power, which is devided in the higher manas and the lower 
manas .
And every level has to take cumulative 
in 7 groups of developement, after that the prototype takes all to 
the next higher level and so on.
So see you on the way to immortality.
Christina


 
> christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com,Dear Cass, where I said that one 
of 
> the lower mind(manas) can teach the higher?
> Just I mentioned that the person living in the lower way, the way 
of 
> the desires cannot give the teaching of the higher, even not in 
clair 
> voyant way, because that is on his lower level.
> So if Leadbeater was and used the homosexual way, he was not in a 
> spiritual way.!
> 
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> > How can someone living in the lower manas teach others about 
higher 
> manas. 
> 
> Chr: he can NOT. 
> 
> Didnt he have a conscience? 
> 
> Chr: Yes, one on his level ! 
> 
> Are you saying that to be spiritual/ethical you dont necessarily 
know 
> the difference between right and wrong? 
> 
> Chr:Then for sure you know!
> 
> What effect do you think this would have had on all the young boys 
> who were placed in his care for their spiritual development. He 
> boasted that masturbation of others was the lesser of two evils. He 
> could have masturbated himself blind as far as I am concerned but 
> nobody has the authority or justification to psychologically damage 
a 
> mind that is not even fully formed, that doesnt know the difference 
> between right and wrong. 
> 
> Chr: It is not to me to justice over masturbation ( right or wrong).
> I think with that there is no problem at all.That is better than to 
> use others.
> I mentioned the homosexuallity of Leadbeater.
> 
> >If the spiritual kitchen is too hot he should have left it, not 
used 
> it.
> 
> Chr:He is not the only one that uses theosophy to feel authorian 
and 
> one with the crack regiment.
> 
> > Sorry, but I really get riled about this subject, he shouldnt 
have 
> inflicted his perversion on others.
> >
> 
> Are you so sure about that? 
> > Cass
> > christinaleestemaker
> 
> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "W.Dallas TenBroeck" 
> > wrote:Hallo Dallis;
> > Right, everyone has to be his own teacher!!
> > 
> > So I think, Leadbeater if it is true what there is said,
> > his sex.contact with boys; is living in the lower manas.
> > 
> > If he was of that kind, then maybe he was clearvisioned ( that 
can 
> be 
> > on several levels), but not enough to see that he was ethically 
> wrong.
> > All the people living on that level cannot be spiritual.
> > Christina.
> > > Jan 11 2005
> > > 
> > > Dear Friends:
> > > 
> > > I would concur, and add: --
> > > 
> > > Each one has to be their own teacher.
> > > 
> > > Each one has at core of his/her own being: the immortal 
Spiritual
> > > Individual: ATMA-BUDDHI -- the MONAD. 
> > > 
> > > Its intelligent tool is the mind MANAS. Manas in us does all 
the 
> > work.
> > > 
> > > "Leaders" on this plane are not needed, but friends and co-
> students 
> > and
> > > inquirers are needed. Each one has to be left free to 
> investigate, 
> > test and
> > > decide their own future by independent choice. Yet we need to 
be 
> > able to
> > > share our perplexities and our wonder with our friends and co-
> > pupils in this
> > > wonderful school of life and of continued opportunity through 
> > reincarnation.
> > > 
> > > But the "ORIGINAL LITERATURE OF THEOSOPHY" is an excellent, and 
> an 
> > essential
> > > tool for all of us to study and test. How else would we 
recognize 
> > THEOSOPHY
> > > ?
> > > 
> > > It is for this reason that I present quotations and reprint the 
> > original
> > > writings of H, P. B and W. Q. Judge.
> > > 
> > > Dallas
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: christinalee 
> > > Sent: 
> > > Subject: Re: Christianity or not...any teacher but the 
teachings!
> > > 
> > > After reading this kind of stuff it is good to see that we 
don't 
> > need 
> > > the teachers but the Theosophy in its one pure state.
> > > 
> > > The area of learning and not any teacher at all!!!
> > > 
> > > Christina.
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