Theos-Talk Archives (January 2005 Message tt00198)

Hi Leon,
So part of what he is saying is that he (the Kiwi, sorry cant remember his name) was born with the Higher Self running the show. That when this happens, the personality is disassociated, and is, if you like, a hologram, to experience life in the world. But there is "something else", over and beyond the personal "I" that is directing the life of the hologram in him. "Something" is running the show, not the personalities ego, which, in most of us, is all we know, but a something which is almost like the programmer for the Hologram. Which leads to a natural progession to,
"are we the multitudeneous holograms of the Absolute"? Something the absolute sends out to experience life for itself, because as an absolute, it doesnt have the vehicle to experience itself as itself.?"
Very interesting stuff, because I keep waiting for the Higher Self to assert itself, but to no avail.
Cass

leonmaurer@aol.com wrote:

I felt this excerpt from a letter to me by a thoughtful philosopher and 
author* -- in response to my answer to his question about what was the general 
response by scientists and philosophers to my Astro Biological Coenergetics web 
site and postings -- would be of specific interest to students of occult 
metaphysics or theosophical science, and other wonderers of what is truth?
I hope it gives us much food for thought. I know it did for me. :-)
Len 
* http://www.awakenedperceptions.com/Adrian'sBkg.html
http://www.awakenedperceptions.com/Adrian'sBk.p1.html

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From: adrian van der meijden adrf@orcon.net.nz
To: leonmaurer@aol.com

Thanks, I suspected as much, but, as usual, want to be sure, or 

something. And Oh, Yes, All I get is silence too, but they listen 

allright. One may detect it by certain rhetorical shifts in emphasis.

"Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence. ~ Charles De Gaulle 

~ which is how he and them think, etc blahh, hahah.


There's some interesting stuff you might like on: and more on trufax.org


Handbook for the New Paradigm 

http://www.futuredynamicadvantage.com/newparadigm/paradigmvol1.html

http://www.futuredynamicadvantage.com/newparadigm/paradigmvol2.html

There's now also a vol 3 out. dd 2003.


I'm still worming my way through this as a second reading reveals more 

stuff between the lines.


May I present you with one of my burbles to Karl Jaspers Forum, run 

by Herbert Muller where academics are still playing gods to the 

illiterate hoi polloi. Might give you a good laugh. HM has the fondness 

when stuck in a corner, as I regularly do to him, to use foreign 

languages and words he imagines us folks don't understand. BTW I've not 

read Rilke either, don't need to.


THE IN-VERSE"


With ALL eyes sees the Creature openness.

Only OUR eyes are As[IF] turned about,

and quite around Them placed, like waterfalls

ensphered, inhibits their free doings.


==My rendition of a verse from Rilke in German


<1>

We should be quite careful in rendering languages, f.i. German, insists

on particles where English allows more of the dynamic ambient or

gerundial. The only model we can use here is the astral where such

things do happen, for which see Robert Monroe and many others. Rilke

calls us creature, as in creative & created and not Mensch. "our" makes

clear he could have written 'Mankind's eyes', but that would ruin the

metre and rhythm as well as the conjointness. In 3-D 'surround' would be

Spherical as for feng shui and astrology, which hails back to medieval

medallion mapping and older. It is like waterfalls because the aura is

conventionally rendered in single colours, where in effect they

coruscate and interlace quite dynamically, in quite unearthly colours.

Rilke is a mystic and to mundanise him into the linear quite distorts

the ideas he expresses. 'Umgekehrt' is as for the Looking Glass, a

topological inversion rather, not a linear one. Dalton's atom is a

reasonable model of the interlacings, all done in spirals or Fibonacci

modelling.


<2>

In a spherical & topological sense this inversion comes, as from a

centre, in many symmetries and for each an enantiodromic asymmetry,

which for the astral is many dimensions as 360 x 350 x 360 by degrees =

some 46 million "dimensions" or directions, let alone including minutes

and less. For this we can aver to the Sepher Yetsirah [The book of the

Points, Mantua, 1612 AD] where there are points within points and points

without points, and each point being "free" or open to the East, West,

South, North and centre and circumference, not unlike Ezekiel's wheels

within wheels. It is perhaps best imaged as like a flower exfoliating

from a bud or a body from an egg and plant from seed. Chladni figures

and after are relevant here. The astral, using the word best known,

comes as phenomenal for the psychic and unformed or void and formless in

the mystical where alone we can "see" its infinite potential, which to

actualise is quite something different again. Con-text as surrounding is

best rendered as IN-text here since in the astral any there is always

here, as made clear by the Red Queen to Alice whom she tells that merely

to stay "here" one has to move faster than light. Alan Aspect's research

here reveals telepathic contact between particles because they are only

particles in 3-D illusory land. It is rendered graphically to assist our

physical senses although it is a quite aniconic *flux*. Dynamic flow

process cannot be rendered in images. In the astral unprepared visitants

make the raw experient (1) try to dive back into the body, (2) fancy he

is going crazy, where in effect he is going sane. This happens when we

live IN fear and suffer from expectations, if not silly hopes.


<3>

The best current model for all this is the hologram. The reader may

google "hologram" and spend a few interesting hours. We see a pixel in

an unprojected holograph but this is false since every such "dot"

contains the information OF [not ABOUT] its wholeness and its wholeness

also about every part. The Information is infoliately spread everywhere

and exfoliately a hologram; all at once and together. We have not got

into multi-frequential holograms yet, but we will. A first sound

hologram has been made. An old saw has it that: the ALL is in the all

and the all in the ALL; Whence to speak linearly of an inverse for

umgekehrt is quite false and too limiting. The action is as from an

always *here" - and NOW - as our experiential focus, but as we change

the in-text the ex-texts change their demeanour. Neither the here nor

now are quantifiably limited except by our choices. It is not the ego

thought i/c for the Intellect's word factory, but Freud's ID he feared

so much where experience turns about the UN-conscious into a

super-conscious, where at higher levels of the mystical one *knows* the

relation between what is projected as a seed of our hologram, which

again, experience can learn to choose. This is shown in Dante's Divine

Comedy, when we change from being subject to the material senses in

Purgatory and Hell, to DO-ing this in our own right, so to speak, as a

co-partner of God's Thoughtings. To reach the heights search the depth,

after which, the journey completed we are and know beyond good and evil.

Deus diavolus inversus est, also implies diavolus depends on god's

grace, to be the Father of Lies. Tibetan Yoga is quite emphatic that we

learn the gods - archetypes - both good and evil - are but our

projections, indeed of our multifarious potentials. Again here we have

the Lama who can do this and the Geshe who just knows about it. Lamas

don't teach, Geshes do; at least not until you've grown out some. Geshes

are more verbally dynamic and flexible, as was Carroll's Father William.


<3>

Thus from a centre, that is but a spark of The Univeral mindings, we get

both an individual centre AND a collective which together with this IT

[IN-tell_ i_gence Transcendent] are enabled to act when this is in

harmony, which comes as for the individual, the collective AND

[inclusive] IT. "in the beginning is the thought, and the thought was

with god and the thought was god, all at once and together OR ISOLATED<

as you like. Sanscrit for "word" is VAC as in vacuum and emptiness. In

the beginning was desire" it says too. The game rules change as we

escape from the witches' cage, Where in the mundane it is our con-text

that prescribes to us,or presumes to, in the astral -Purgatory- we CAN

experience our hidden beliefs as the correlation of in-texts with

ex-texts phenomenally, and in the mystical we have learnt this so can

use this more wisely transcendentally. Graphically and topologically put

thus, from the causal or seed centre projects a 3-D hologramic illusion,

within which we can move and have our being in 2 and 1-D abductive

modes. This is made quite clear in the Sepher and other Talmudic

writings, although within the 3-D and linear this is quite confusing and

paradoxical, being stuck in space and time, where location governs. We

need not, as does the human law, BE responsible for what happens to us

in ignorance and innocence, but we CAN take responsibility, which

changes the nature of the Game and Player as well told in A.E. van

Vogt's Null-A SF stories, by Albert Goseyn, pun for Go-sane. It is truly

as St Paul has it where perfect obedience to the laws is perfect

freedom. Those laws are both simple and infinitely complex in their

outworkings, After all ***IT *** being immortal, boundless and eternal

may well seeM quite devious in its ways to the uninitiated. But once

In-IT-i-ated it is a fun game. Jung, about the collective is quite right

when he mentions that what the experient cannot or won't acknowledge as

IN himself, is that IT comes as Fate from an outside. I find the ego

notion that we each project THE world quite funny. Besides it is

contrary to Ockham's razor. We DO project our individual worlds which

vary everywhere, as, so to speak, our choice selections from an infinite

potential. By this the collective current world condition is a

collective. God seems to like specialists but not the narrow-minded.

He's also very good with logics.


<4>

This makes of Rilke someone who would be passed as a Zen Master and Lama

both. I won't speak of gurus or wiseacres. Nor will I include any

details from Quantum findings the reader should best explore himself. Of

necessity much of what is written for the benefit of the sense & word

bound somewhat distorts all this but that too is part of the game rules.

It is and has been the best advertised secret ever. One has to learn to

sort the gold from the dross, both in and outside in this resthome for

Angels. It's Your choice, as Hamlet has it, whether it is nobler to

suffer the slings and arrows of Outrageous Fortune, or do otherwise.

It's your free choice, and all roads ultimately lead to Rome, and aye,

away from it as well.


<5>

I shall now for contrast and confirmation, cite from Zen>> As

serendipity will have it, this just popped up.

" Hardly anything is known of Yangqi (Yangchi), despite the fame of his

school and the powerful influence of the line of teachers descended from

him. Yangqi said that the condition of the environment depends on the

individual and collective mentalities and actions of its inhabitants,

but the individual and collective mentalities and actions of the

inhabitants are also conditioned by the environment. From inside, this

circle is the suffocating wheel of bondage itself, but with

extradimensional consciousness able to deliberately transform thought

and behavior it becomes a field of progressive action."


" Detachment from the images formed by the process of conditioning,

Yangqi said, undermines their spellbinding power and enables the mind to

recover the autonomy that makes fresh progress possible. Nothing is

destroyed by this experience, however, except the force of illusion;

Yangqi taught that there is still human feeling, corresponding to the

design and reason of the natural world." Zen Essence, Translated &

Edited by Thomas Cleary pg. 103


<6>

To summarise, the steersman is then an individual, conjoint part with a

collective, which should be "demo-cratic" and co-active in the IT. But

all which it varies with one's chosen perspective on the situation and

condition. In stone age rock carvings the "Ship of the Dead" is shown

with seven occupants, archetypal of what is built into our being=ness in

varying proportions and redolent of the seven veils of our aura. This is

ante-diluvial where people lived in Grace and were not very interested

in temporary visits. The oft repeated call is "sleeper awake". It's

quite indifferent was to whether we call it a who or a what.


"When Buddhas meet, they nod and pass, what is there to say?".


"Why are people called Buddhas after they die?

Because they don't grumble any more,

Because they don't make a nuisance of themselves! --Ikkyu

OFF course because they are mythologised and not kept humanised.


I hope this very brief KISS exegesis is of use to people.


adrian van der meijden adrf@orcon.net.nz







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