Theos-Talk Archives (December 2004 Message tt00285)

 Dear Cass.
Thank you for your interesting email. I think 'downunder' is quite well
represented here LOL I mostly lurk about reading but once in a long while I
feel the urge to say something.
I think I have given up 'bad' or 'good' as descriptions of actions, deeds
etc as I can see that effects must follow sooner or later from actions we
are attached to that bring disharmony in one way or another.
I understand that motive is the deciding factor as to how the outcome can be
thought of as harmony or disharmony. Well meaning motive without wisdom can
bring disharmony just as much as wishing harm to another causes disharmony.
I have also learned from my study that Nature is impersonal and it is our
interpretation that puts labels on effects caused. 
If I have created disharmony among my life atoms in past lives, I can expect
at some time to reap the effects which might be illness or any other
misfortune in later lives. I have caused upset to areas of my inner self and
when I reincarnate, life atoms I may not want are attracted to the vibration
I have created of a lesser kind than I would wish in this life. It is a most
interesting concept.
I understand that conscience is our inner spiritual self and the more one
can subdue the human ego, the more this spiritual self can be heard within. 
Regards
Bee


Dear Bee
Nice to have someone else from "downunder" on board. I read your piece of
GdP, and you have succinctly put his interpretations together in terms of
common sense understanding. Instead of looking at it as good or bad karma
(punishment or reward) The Sufi teaching says that "because our tendency is
towards idealization that causes us to name as punishment and reward what is
simply the outcome of our actions. Good cannot be the outcome of evil,
neither can evil be the outcome of good. If we look down deeper within
ourselves, we shall find that our deeds have a great effect on our inner
being, and react and manifest on the surface as (what we see as) good or bad
results. This explains right and wrong, good and evil. In other words, our
body, mind, and heart, the factor of feelings, react on each other. If the
body controls the mind, or the mind the feelings, the result is bad, for it
is the lower plane having a control over the highter plane of existence. On
the other hand, when
the heart controls the mind, and the mind, the body, the result can only
be good, as the higher self then has control over the lower self."
There are natural results of every action, but aren't they just "results"
without labelling them "good" or "bad". I have found that within every good
deed, there is always some bad effect. And with every bad deed there is
always some good effect. If we do not take the results on board and just
accept "What is, is", then we do not see things as good or bad, but act from
our own conscience that it "was the right (good) thing to do for me." 
Whatever the result doesnt change what was the right thing to do- even if it
was the right thing to do "at that time".

So, regarding organ transplants, I feel that if it is the right thing to do
(for me) (at this time - this incarnation) then I should do it. If, on the
other hand, I feel that it is not the right thing to do (for me) (at this
time) then I should not do it. Our motives should be very clear, if they
are, whatever the results I must live with it.
Just waffling now, so will sign off
Cass
























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