Theos-Talk Archives (December 2004 Message tt00094)

Hi
If you read carefully my last post you´ll see that I also agree with you.
I ´ve developed naturally the faculty of chanelling some years ago but I do not use it.
The quest is how to identify and to tell from what is mind´s fantasy , pure thoughts taken from the astral chains, akasa, etc. 
What I can also see is that many mediums are using the word Channeling for their mediumship to atract other classes of people ´cause the term Chanelling is more modern than mediumship.
My position is that if you can not get aware what you´re dealing with, donot deal with it.
There are also some cases in which schizofrenia is also involved as once Dallas T. talked about.
Fortunately most of the masters that were in communication with HPB did allthe work with anonymity, or there would be lots of people claiming being in contact with them due to the reputation atributed to the SD and other works.
Geofrey like Leadbeater also had his psychic powers in evidence and their observations are also a matter for a deeper discussion.

Regardz
Krishtar

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Erica Letzerich 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Hilarion



Hi Krishtar,
   

I know that, but I do not recognize no one of the sources you mentioned below authentic. Channelling is a trap in my opinion, and it can be no more than expressions of their imagination mixed with some knowledge that the channel may have. I am really looking to get some more references about Hilarion present in the early history of the Theosophical Society. I do not consider even Geoffrey Hodson's books a recommendable source. As I have read many of Hodson's books and I doubt deeply he was ever in contact with the Mahatmas. Thank you for the feedback anyway.

   

Erica


krishtar <krishtar_a@brturbo.com> wrote:

Hi Erica

If we look for His references outside the theosophical texts there will be lots of presumed channeled messages from Him.
Summit lighthouse for example offers channeled texts that are mostly dreadful stuff in their literature.
Clair Prophet´s works at Summit and other sub-branches seem a great " viagem na maionese" ( daydreaming), IMHO, of course.

Krishtar
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Erica Letzerich 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:03 AM
Subject: Theos-World Re: Hilarion




I remember to have read that the first time Blavatsky meet Hilarion
was in Egypt, Cairo. She mentions that Hilarion was Greek. As I am 
making a research about the Mahatmas I would like to collect
more material related to the early period of the Theosophical
Society about the Adept Hilarion. If anyone has some sources about
Hilarion (sources related to the early period of the T.S.) it will
be welcome.

Making some research I found the following information related to
Hilarion:

It's said that Hilarion was the author of Light on the Path...

Also I found the following in the Letters from the Masters of Wisdom
II:

1 From the Master Hilarion, received June 6, 1883. Colonel Olcott
writes in that date in his Diary:

"Had nice test this a.m. Couldn't decide whether to accept
invitations to Colombo or Allahabad first. Put Avinas Ch. Bannerji's
letter in shrine, locked door, instantly reopened it and got the
written orders of Maha Sahib through Hilarion in French. Done while
I stood there and not half a minute had elapsed." The Master H. was
in Bombay on February 19, 1881, when He visited both Founders:
Colonel Olcott thus writes in his Diary: "Hilarion is here en route
for Tibet and has been looking over, in, and through the situation.
Finds B-something morally awful. Views on India, Bombay, the T.S. in
Bombay, Ceylon (-), England and Europe, Christianity and other
subjects highly interesting."

A note in the collected writings:

Collected Writings VOLUME VI August, 1884 MR. A. LILLIE'S DELUSIONS

[The "Eastern adept" spoken of by H. P. B. in the above article is
Hilarion, who lived for a time on the island of Cyprus, and
collaborated with H. P. B. in the writing of her occult stories. He
signed himself "Hilarion Smerdis." Col. Henry S. Olcott's entry of
Feb. 19, 1881, in his Diaries, says: "Hilarion is here en route for
Tibet, and has been looking over, in and through the
situation . . . " This entry was made in Bombay. Master K. H. refers
also to this journey of Hilarion from Cyprus to Tibet (Mahatma
Letters, p. 289).--Compiler.]


Also the following:

ON THE HISTORICAL BACKGROUND OF "SOME INQUIRIES SUGGESTED BY
MR SINNETT'S ESOTERIC BUDDHISM" Collected Writings VOLUME V
Sept., Oct., Nov., 1883


In this text there the original letter in Master Hilarion's
handwriting which is preserved in the Archives of The Theosophical
Society at Adyar, Madras, India. The letter says the following:

"Maha Sahib, with whom I am at the moment, orders me to say that the
most reasonable plan would be to make a tour of about a month in the
neighboring districts. From Tinnevelly or even from Malabar the
Colonel could go to Colombo for a few days-but only for a few days-
to encourage them and to recharge them with his personal ÂkâÑa-which
could not fail to be beneficial to them. The Societies of the South
are in need of his vivifying presence. Going round about within the
Presidency, he could thus be recalled at any time to Headquarters,
should there be need. July 17 would be the proper time to go to the
Northern Provinces, visiting all the Societies on the road, from
Bellary to Poona, etc.
"Maha Sahib begs the Colonel not to risk his health too much. His
advice would be to use a magnetic tile on the heads of three or four
people here and to try to enter into relation with [the Râjahs of]
Venkatagiri and Vizianagram. For that there is enough time till June
17. Let him make a plan and present it."


Also in the extracts of Colonell Olcott diary we find the following
about Hilarion:

Tuesday, November 27. p .m. Damodar returned looking haggard, but
more tough and wiry than before. He is now a new man indeed. Brought
me a message from Hilarion.


Also the following:
The Adept-Brother known as Hilarion, Ilarion, and Hillarion Smerdis,
who, among other things, collaborated with H.P.B. in the writing of
her occult stories. C.W. Vol. I compilers note


Erica






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