Theos-Talk Archives (October 2004 Message tt00268)

Oct 15 2004

Dear Friend:

We at this stage are unable to revise history.  

Yes, there are many opinions.

However if we go to the documents still available we can determine in our
own minds where accuracy is.  

None of need another or others to tell him or them what such accuracy is. 

I am afraid that if there are individuals and even bodies that have chosen a
particular view, the revelation of the documents may be painful and hurtful
to false ideas -- especially so, if the ideas adopted are seen to be
questionable. 

Best wishes, 

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: D P 
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:57 AM
To: 
Subject: On Historical Revisionism



 

I think that the debate about the W. Judge’s occult status has derived in a
more personnal passionate discussion on historical subjects. For the
meantime I would like to take an equilibrium between some contributions:

 

A) It seems to me that is a common place to attack Adyar TS in base to
certain prejudices, as Frank statement about trasvetical School. Of course
there is a long tradition of Neo-Theosophy there but as a Sufi sage has
said: althought the critics is correct the person that make it is not
correct. With the correctness I mean direct knowledge. Have anybody direct
knowledge of the inner status of a organization or of another person? I
believe that the inner relationship with Mahatmas throughout the whole
Theosophical Movement can be maintained only on the basis of a common work
for there are some individuals or groups with occult value, but what we
understand about it? It is needed to know if oneself make an asseveration
with knowledge or prejudice.

I believe that we have to leave discussions about primacy of a society over
another or a Esoteric School over another, there are many Esoterical Schools
inside the Theosophical Movement, there will be much more, so much esoteric
ones, “esoteric” ones as exoteric ones (the latter perhaps the most healthly
choice), there will be, in the same way as Schools, many Teachers. If the
Theosophical Movement is the angular stone for future religions (as the
ChoHan said), there is no choice, if not, the human nature will do its work
and the same results will happen.

But...

 

B) It is needed an attitude of historical revisionism, like that of Daniel
Caldwell, Gregory Tillet, K. Paul Johnson, James Santucci and others (inside
the Theosophical Movement or not). In some cases an attitude of silencing
discussion or silent censorship work as attack or defence, the same with
misinformation.

What is the right of Besant’s actions? Why did she not maintain this
attitude some years later in relation to claims from Leadbeater, Arundale or
Weedgwood? Or in relation to hers own’s? What are the falses accusations on
Leadbeater? It is indispensable to read Tillet’s work The Elder Brother.
About the differences between chelas we can see Damodar and the Pionneers...
where Sven Eeek quotes a Mahatma Letter that states Bhavani Shankar has
better skills than Damodar or HPB, but what does it mean? Of course it not
implies occult status or the condition of agent or messenger.

I think it is not an untheosophical work study and discussing these items,
but it must be done for historical purposes, there are many things implied
like succesorship, false claims about teachings or contact with World Lord,
or World Teacher, and so world... 

I believe we can see that when the truth or (less pretentious) the
investigation is not the objective we can fall in the defense of corporative
interest or in a critic a la mode. Mysticism is the field of isolated,
uncompromised and free candidates, HPB said to W. Judge: “...for find the
Masters you must be free, you has made chains around you...” (See for
correct quotation Some Letters to W. Judge in blavatskyarchives), these
words HPB has said them in relation to Judge’s wife, but (like the
argentinian expression) if anybody is “married” with an organization, at the
same time he is condemned to defend it and not to defend or search a truth. 

Perhaps the last test be (paraphrasing a P’s expression) work neither
impersonal nor personal but work.

Well that is all, excuse my tedious e-mail.

 

Damián

 


		
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