Theos-Talk Archives (October 2004 Message tt00110)

Hallo Anand and all,

My views are:

I asked a question in the previous email.
You might have overlooked it,
so I asked again.

May I ask a question:
What stance has TS Adyar today on masutbation practises
among the young theosophists and the leaders?
Try to read this link before answering:
Annie Besant - at the Court 1913
http://www.parascience.org/besant.htm

--- No answer is also an answer. ---

from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anand Gholap" <AnandGholap@AnandGholap.org>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophistry in Fohat


> 
> 
> Morten,
> You said
> " Then Blavatsky was guilty of doing something wrong
> on many accounts - is this not true Anand?
> (Do you need me to email some examples - before you are convinced?)"
> 
> This time you told truth. Are you sick today.
> 
> Anand Gholap
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten N. Olesen" <global-
> theosophy@a...> wrote:
> > 
> > Then Blavatsky was guilty of doing something wrong
> > on many accounts - is this not true Anand?
> > (Do you need me to email some examples - before you are convinced?)
> > 
> > My theosophical view is:
> > If it is you experience, that someone is doing something wrong.
> > Should you then not seek to help that individual - even if others 
> who
> > are filled with prejudice go and say that you are - criticizing, 
> shame on
> > you???
> > Or similar.
> > 
> > Anand asked:
> > "Are discussion groups formed to discuss principles of Theosophy or
> > criticizing leaders of other organizations."
> > 
> > I would theosophically speaking say both - if the critic being
> > given are motivated by compassion to help that individual or other
> > individuals, who
> > connected with the situation one way or the other.
> > Without a critical stance towards any teaching - and by just 
> absorbing
> > anything being presented to one self, - one is most likely at risk 
> of being
> > indorctrinated or as some would say - brainwashed into false 
> glamourous
> > views.
> > 
> > My view is, that the promotion of author with a dubious reputation -
> > is not theosophical - unless the dubious repuation are refuted.
> > 
> > The problem as I see it is:
> > When is one making a critic out of ill will and when is it motivated
> > by compassion. Those who are not aware of the facts - but
> > only assumes that they are - should better hold their tounge where 
> it
> > belongs.
> > 
> > May I ask a question:
> > What stance has TS Adyar today on masutbation practises
> > among the young theosophists and the leaders?
> > Try to read this link before answering:
> > Annie Besant - at the Court 1913
> > http://www.parascience.org/besant.htm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > from
> > M. Sufilight with peace andlove...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Anand Gholap" <AnandGholap@A...>
> > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 10:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophistry in Fohat
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Criticizing respected author of other organization is as wrong as
> > > christion criticizing Buddha or buddhist criticizing Christ. Are
> > > discussion groups formed to discuss principles of Theosophy or
> > > criticizing leaders of other organizations.
> > > Anand Gholap
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten N. Olesen" <global-
> > > theosophy@a...> wrote:
> > > > My views are:
> > > >
> > > > Well...
> > > >
> > > > I will have to ask you politely and wellmeaning:
> > > > Is it not also a question about whether one
> > > > actually "see bad in authors out of proportion" or Not ?
> > > >
> > > > How much bad is allowed from any author of wellknown 
> theosophical
> > > admiration
> > > > before - enough is enough?
> > > > Is there no limit?
> > > > And if there is a limit, where do you Anand think it is?
> > > > And who decides this?
> > > >
> > > > from
> > > > M. Sufilight
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Anand Gholap" <AnandGholap@A...>
> > > > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:11 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophistry in Fohat
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That's right. Especially when all so called Theosophical 
> Societies
> > > > > have main object Universal Brotherhood and when members see 
> bad in
> > > > > authors out of proportion, then something is wrong.
> > > > > Fraternally,
> > > > > Anand Gholap
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "clarity12.1@j..."
> > > > > <clarity12.1@j...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What would it take to drop politics from the very word
> > > theosophy.
> > > > > it has so much baggage, that the word itself, detracts even 
> more
> > > that
> > > > > it might attract. How much time do we take in addressing the 
> very
> > > > > long file of ts players. Does this practice not keep us off 
> the
> > > task
> > > > > of practicing the principles we seem to more or less agree 
> that
> > > exist-
> > > > > -self existent.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If we only concentrate on the pure principles, without the
> > > relative
> > > > > bias interference, then would we not be practicing a form of
> > > > > meditation, I call conscious communication? Language that
> > > divides,
> > > > > regardless of it's astute intelluectual power, is still a 
> breach
> > > of
> > > > > the so called oneness that we essentially are.
> > > > > > Or is this view naive?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regina
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
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