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Re: Theos-World Mrs Besant's "leading men"

Sep 29, 2004 08:15 AM
by Morten N. Olesen

I did too.

M. Sufilight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "krishtar" <>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Mrs Besant's "leading men"

Dear Gregory

The more I read about the post HPBīs " discipleship" the more I believe why
The Masters decided to disappear after her passing and also deeply
undersdood why their communication broke off from then.
I am plainly conviced that , as KH claimed in AP Sinnetīs ML , their upasika
was their best choice in that period.
>From what I have read it seemed that after HPB left us, much of what was
left became a theatrical play in the hands of people who played with their
siddhis and self-illusioned egos.
Can you please tell if you have any online version of the contents of the
pamphlet you mentioned on the "I had a copy of that pamphlet with me when I
met with Mrs Rukmini Devi Arundale at Adyar..." ? I got curious.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: gregory
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 3:48 AM
Subject: Theos-World Mrs Besant's "leading men"

As George Bernard Shaw said of Mrs Besant that she always need a "leading
man" to play to.

In her Theosophical career these included:

Madam Blavatsky
Gyanendra Nath Chakravarti (?-1936) whom she (for a time) believed for a
time to be a "Master in the flesh" and whose daughter she accepted (also
for a time) as the reincarnation of Madame Blavatsky.
Bhagavan Das (who was unenthusiastic about playing the role of her guru)

Her problems arose when competing "leading men" had her attention. The
best example occurred with the "Huizen Revelations" of 1924 when Mrs
Besant announced various extravagant and extraordinary "messages from the
Masters", "received" via Arundale (and to a lesser extent by Wedgwood)
but proclaimed as if they came via Mrs Besant herself. Krishnamurti
rejected the "revelations", as did Leadbeater (who was in Australia at
the time of the great Huizen excitment); but both did so privately to
avoid a public split.

In 1926 Arundale "brought through" a message from the Mahachohan telling
Mrs Besant to resign in Arundale's favour. Krishnamurti responded by
urging her to expel Arundale; Leadbeater told her it was not her Master's
wish that she resign.

It is possible that Mrs Besant's psychological decline, which began in
1925, was a consequence of conflicting loyalties to her "leading men"
and, more specifically, from her final discovery that Krishnamurti
repudiated all the "revelations" from Huizen (the "Twelve Apostles", the
World University, the World Religion, the World Mother, the visit to the
Master's castle, and such like). I was given, by one who was involved at
the time, a detailed account of how Mrs Besant was told of Krishnamurti's
rejection of the revelations. Krishnamurti was unwilling to directly
confront her on the matter, and sent Professor Marcault (of the World
University) to convey his views. Mrs Besant was physically and
psychologically ill for some time thereafter.

It is probable that Leadbeater's return to India in Mrs Besant's
declining years was an attempt to prevent Arundale assuming control over
her. Following her death, Arundale produced a number of "messages" from
the post-mortem Mrs Besant and published these in a (now very rare)
pamphlet. Ironically, I had a copy of that pamphlet with me when I met
with Mrs Rukmini Devi Arundale at Adyar to be told by her that Arundale
had never claimed to have received any messages from Masters or anyone

Dr Gregory Tillett

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