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Hitler and the occult: some remarks on the Thule Society

Sep 25, 2004 03:46 AM
by Theo Paijmans

Hello Leon and all,

Although there are many overlaps in the area German occult societies and the birth of Nationalsocialism, not only as to persons belonging to one club and being involved in another society, and even locations (the Hotel Vier Jahreszeiten in Munich is a focal point, for instance), Hitler was not a member of the Thule Gesellschaft. To quote Rudolf von Sebottendorf in his "Bevor Hitler Kam", Dekula Verlag, 1933, Hitler and Hess were 'guests of the Thule Society'. Post WW2 researchers however, have found no real evidence to suggest that Hitler was involved whatsoever in the Thule Gesellschaft (see: Detlev Rose, "Die Thule Gesellschaft, legende, Mythos, Wirklichkeit", Grabert Verlag, 1994, or Friedrich Heller & Anton Maegerle, "Thule", Schmetterling verlag, 1998).

As to the Thule Gesellschaft being a society of a deeply occult nature, that is discounted according to these studies. When there was any occultism, it involved merely lectures on mundane esoteric subjects by certain members, which evoked remarks by other members that they were 'sick and tired' of these esoteric rants. As to Himmler and the SS being involved in "black magic rituals", there are some very good sudies on what the SS was, that balance such a - although suitably romantic Indiana Jones style - view. Notably Heinz Hohne, "The Order of the Death's Head" Coward McCann, 1970, or Karl Huser, "Wewelsburg, Kult und Terrorstatte der SS", verlag Bonifatius, 1987. That is not to say that Himmler and Hess had their strange beliefs (read for instance Sonke Lorenz, "Himmler's Hexenkartothek", Verlag fur Regionalgeschichte, 2000, but a more subtle picture is needed, which is a far cry from Pauwels and Bergiers "Matin des Magiciens", Gallimard 1960, or Trevor Ravenscroft's "Spear of Destiny", Neville Spearman 1974, which are two of the most influential books on the subject of the Nazis and the occult, which spawned a dozen followers (I have them all, here).

Nevretheless, I am more than interested Leon, in your personal experiences, and what you found and witnessed there. Remember: not all that has happened has been neatly catalogued in the historybooks and delegated snugly into footnotes. For instance, where does this legend originate that there were hundreds of dead Tibetans in Berlin? Everybody repeats this story, but where's the original source? And with that I mean not a book, but are there intelligence reports? Newspaper clippings from that time period?



Nazi is short for National Socialist German Workers Party -- which Hitler became the leader of and made it the state religion. National Socialism is a form of Fascism. This form of government implies a dictatorship with the State confiscating and controlling (in a sense owning) all sources of manufacturing, production and and distribution of all products and commodities and full control of the social system. well as having the power of life and death over all citizen, who were considered merely pawns of the state.

Hitler had no hate for the occult, since he was a member of and the stooge of several occult organizations in Germany (Thule Group, etc.) who practiced a form of ritual black magic similar to the Dugpas spoken of by HPB. In fact, the Nazi's were in cahoots with them, and there were many Tibetan Dugpas brought into Germany who cooperated with them. Hitler personally was deep into occult astrology and used astrologists to advise him. He also sanctioned his SS (SchutzStaffel) originally his personal guard, under the leadership of the known occultist Heinrich Himmler, to practice a ritual black magic in their sanctum seclorum (which I, as a telephone communication expert, uncovered first hand when I was assigned to military Intelligence in WW2, and had full access to SS, Gestapo and other communication headquarters in the many cities and town we overran on our way to Germany)

He hated the Jews and theosophist mainly for the reason that they knew the real source of occultism... The ancient wisdom teachings of the and which underlay Buddhism as well as the Egyptian Kabbala known by and transmitted to the Hebrew Kabbalists by Moses.  All of which were inimivcal to the black magical and murderous practices of the Nazis. 

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