Theos-Talk Archives (September 2004 Message tt00069)

Thanks, Daniel, I was wondering. 

On 3 Sep 2004 at 1:25, Daniel H. Caldwell wrote:

> Hi Adelasie,
> 
> This is an interesting question.
> 
> Probably should be researched.
> 
> Off the top of my head, I would say that the major three
> Theosophical organizations have no "official policy" on this one way
> or the other.
> 
> But some of the leaders and officials of the various organizations
> have stated that they were in communication with the Mahatmas after
> HPB's death or even in communication with the dead HPB or the dead
> W.Q. Judge.
> 
> Daniel
> http://hpb.cc
> 
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> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@s...> wrote: >
> Hi Daniel, > > May I ask, is it an official policy of Theosophical
> organizations > that no communication was received from the Masters
> after the death > of HPB? > > Thanks, > Adelasie > > On 2 Sep 2004 at
> 18:54, Daniel H. Caldwell wrote: > > > Our modern knowledge of
> Theosophy sprang > > from two sources: The Mahatma Letters & > > the
> writings of H.P. Blavatsky. > > > > From the Masters' letters, A.P.
> Sinnett > > wrote 2 books "The Occult World" & "Esoteric > >
> Buddhism." From the knowledge gained directly > > from these Masters,
> Madame Blavatsky penned > > more than 10,000 pages of writing
> including > > her major works "Isis Unveiled," "The Secret > >
> Doctrine," "The Key to Theosophy" & "The Voice > > of the Silence." >
> > > > Since HPB's death in 1891, NUMEROUS individuals > > have claimed
> contact with her Masters, stating > > that they were new "messengers"
> conveying further > > esoteric teachings. See a partial list of > >
> claimants at: > > > >
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/latermessengers.htm#six > > > > The end
> result has been a CONFUSING MORASS of claims, > > counterclaims &
> various contradictory teachings. > > > > Even during her lifetime,
> Mme. Blavatsky told the Theosophists: > > > > "Great are the
> desecrations to which the names of two of the Masters > > have been
> subjected. There is hardly a medium who has not claimed to > > have
> seen them." > > > > HPB & the Mahatmas also warned about "imitations
> of Occultism and > > Theosophy" and "disfigured" expositions of
> Theosophy. They wrote about > > "wild and fanciful speculation" and
> "erroneous notions" about > > Theosophy that were distorting the
> original teachings. > > > > Concerning certain "false ideas" grafted
> onto Theosophy, Blavatsky > > penned the following: > > > > "Nothing
> is more dangerous to Esoteric Truth than the garbled and > > distorted
> versions disfigured to suit the prejudices and tastes of men > > in
> general." > > > > For more background on the above, see: > > > >
> H.P.B.'s Occult Status & the Claims of Latter-Day Messengers of the >
> > Masters http://blavatskyarchives.com/latermessengers.htm > > > > In
> light of the above confusion and conflicting claims, the Blavatsky > >
> Study Center recommends inquirers & new students to go directly to the
> > > fountain source of Modern Theosophy: the original writings of > >
> Blavatsky & the Mahatmas. > > > > These source writings contain a
> wealth of valuable material on > > metaphysics, esoteric lore and
> knowledge, occult laws and processes in > > nature, ethical, spiritual
> and devotional material, and much more. > > > > Whether the student is
> inclined to believe Blavatsky's claims or not, > > whether one
> ultimately comes to accept or reject what she wrote, we > > have
> available HPB's major books, more than 1000 of her articles, > >
> hundreds of her personal letters to correspondents, more than a > >
> hundred Mahatma letters received during HPB's lifetime, and voluminous
> > > historical accounts of people who met and knew HPB and her
> Teachers. > > Some of these latter accounts have been compiled in the
> book ESOTERIC > > WORLD OF MADAME BLAVATSKY. http://esotericworld.net
> > > > > The Blavatsky and Mahatma source material is now available on
> CD- Rom. > > See http://blavatskyarchives.com/tsclassics2.htm > > > >
> Also see much of this material online at > >
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/hpbwritingsalphalist.htm > > > >
> Interested inquirers and students are encouraged to read and study > >
> this original material. No one is asked to believe or disbelieve what
> > > is written but simply encouraged to try to gain an UNDERSTANDING
> of > > what is being conveyed in material from the pens of HPB and the
> > > Mahatmas. > > > > Far too many readers don't take the time and
> effort to try > > to understand what HPB is attempting to convey in
> her many writings. > > Far too often students interject their own
> thoughts & understanding on > > to the subject. Nothing is inherently
> wrong with that approach but > > the Center recommends that a student
> should try to ascertain FIRST OF > > ALL what HPB's and the Mahatmas'
> views actually are on various > > subjects. This can be a challenge in
> itself but it can be done. > > > > A reader would do well to ask: "Do
> I really understand what HPB and > > the Mahatmas are trying to convey
> in their writings?" > > > > One student's advice has been: Give HPB
> and the Mahatmas the lectern > > and allow them to speak. The initial
> goal should be to try to "listen" > > to them, to try to understand
> their view, their take on the subject. > > > > This is not to say that
> one should assume that they are always right > > or anything like
> that. HPB and the Mahatmas never claimed they were > > infallible. 
> But many students have reasonably concluded that HPB and > > her
> Teachers were very knowledgeable on a wide range of subjects. > > > >
> Furthermore, keep in mind the following words of HPB: > > > > "Every
> reader will inevitably judge the statements made from the > >
> stand-point of his own knowledge, experience, and consciousness, based
> > > on what he has already learnt." > > > > We also might do well to
> keep uppermost in mind how limited our OWN > > knowledge, experience
> and consciousness MAY be. > > > > Daniel H. Caldwell > > BLAVATSKY
> STUDY CENTER > > http://hpb.cc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo!
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