Theos-Talk Archives (July 2004 Message tt00311)

That time I was talking to Katinka and I knew from other messages from Katinka that it was major concern for her. So I thought it fit to write a sentence or two about it.
Anand Gholap

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Daniel H. Caldwell 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 10:30 PM
Subject: Theos-World Anand to Gregory: Re: Leadbeater revised


Dear Anand,

In response to Gregory's comments, you write that

"I am not interested in that subject...."

But it was YOU who first wrote about the subject as
follows:

"Boys asked him [Leadbeater] what to do about 
continuous sexual thoughts in their minds. 
Leadbeater replied masturbation would relieve 
from those thoughts for some time. Any doctor 
will tell you he is right. From that statement 
many stories were created by others about CWL."

If not interested, why did you write anything
about it at all? 

Once you wrote about it, Gregory is pointing
out that in his opinion you were not
properly stating the facts.

Aren't you interested in finding out the
truth of the matter? I would hope you would
be since you felt the need to write about it
in the first place.

Daniel



--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Anand Gholap" <AnandGholap@A...> 
wrote:
> Dear Gregory,
> I am not interested in that subject and guesses people make that 
somebody might have done something to somebody. I am interested in 
Theosophy and any book I read, I judge every sentence with my own 
knowledge, intellect and intuition.
> Best regards.
> Anand Gholap
> 
> Original Message ----- 
> From: gregory 
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 1:59 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Leadbeater revised
> 
> 
> Anand Gholap claimed:
> 
> "(4) Boys asked him [Leadbeater] what to do about continuous 
sexual 
> thoughts in their minds. Leadbeater replied masturbation would 
relieve 
> from those thoughts for some time. Any doctor will tell you he is 
right. 
> >From that statement many stories were created by others about 
CWL."
> 
> Interesting revision of history, but, alas, simply false. 
> 
> Leadbeater, by his own admission:
> 
> (i) claimed to be able to know clairvoyantly when boys where 
experiencing 
> sexual desire and initiated discussions about masturbation with 
them;
> 
> (ii) "taught" (his word) masturbation to boys [whatever "taught" 
might 
> mean];
> 
> (iii) included "indicative action" in his "teaching" of 
masturbation;
> 
> (iv) may have used "physical touch" in his "teaching" of 
masturbation;
> 
> (v) did such things to pre-pubescent boys.
> 
> This is a long way - morally and legally - from providing 
counselling to 
> boys who sought his advice. Any doctor (or psychologist or 
clergyman or 
> counsellor) who did what Leadbeater admitted doing would be de-
registered 
> and sent to jail.
> 
> Dr Gregory Tillett
> 





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