Theos-Talk Archives (July 2004 Message tt00186)

Hi
Thanks for the comments.
Yes, these questions are very hard to answer in a non-puzzling way...
Will, races and rounds are also subjects that always puzzled me a little, because they find no similar knowledge in the fields we are used to study from childhood to college. We are still bombed with Darwin, Malthus theories and in religion we, since very soon, learned that a God created everything and then keeps watching us from there up.
I once asked Bart if he thought if Theosophy ever helped Science to become less materialist, and I am forced to agree today that the answer is NO but what theosophy did was to prove that IT was beyond the correct compreension at her age and many things are being comfirmed year after year by Science anyway.

Regards
Krishtar



----- Original Message ----- 
From: Katinka Hesselink 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 5:25 PM
Subject: Theos-World wil, volition, desire


Desire is something 'you' are not so much in control of (though it can
be mastered). Volition is where we feel that 'I am choosing'. Will is
used in theosophy for the highest aspect of this - a spiritual
willpower like something.

Very difficult subject. One can only truly understand if one studies
oneself, the way Dallas suggests, for instance.

Katinka
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "krishtar" <krishtar_a@b...> wrote:
> Dallas,
> And the occult difference between volition , desire and will?
> Puzzling.!?
> Try.
> Krishtar
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Dallas TenBroeck 
> To: study@b... 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:58 PM
> Subject: Theos-World : re "exoteric/esoteric," Dallas and ...
> 
> 
> Dear Philip:
> 
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> 
> As I understand the word "will" relates to the power we each one
have of
> choosing to make a decision and then continuing in that until the end.
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> For example the connection between your thought: " I will type and
use my
> fingers." And the actual muscular effort to move the fingers, is
caused by
> an operation of the inner intangible WILL. 
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> Check this out for yourself. 
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> YOU tell the fingers to move. 
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> The necessary muscles are then moved from within by the directed
will of YOU
> YOURSELF. 
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> 
> The acquirement of knowledge by listening, seeing, studying is
still another
> operation of the will. 
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> YOU decide to acquire information. 
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> YOU decide to listen to a lecture, or listen to answers. 
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> YOU decide to go to the encyclopedia and find out the information
there. 
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> YOU read.
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> YOU decide (another act of the will) if you will accept or reject that
> information.
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> YOU the decide whether you will make a powerful impression or a weak
> impression on your memory.





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