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Re: Theos-World Forget about Leadbeater, here's the real deal

Jun 23, 2004 06:20 AM
by stevestubbs


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, leonmaurer@a... wrote:
> The final physical form of 
> any object would be considered as its "rupa."

Yes.

> Why would such a manufactured 
> item like a computer need a pre structural rupa?

You are not an engineer. One cannot build a computer without first 
figuring out what it will look like. The rupa has to be 
conceptualized before it can be manifested.

> Since a computer, being an 
> unconscious artifactual assemblage of equally unconscious sub 
structures composed of 
> physical atoms, doesn't grow by a process of self assemblage

Man adds the manas to the other six principles. This is 
theoretically true of other inanimate objects, except that the manas 
added may not be human.

> In fact, all the above statements, with respect to rupas, seems to 
be a most 
> illogical assemblage of nonsense that has little basis in the 
theosophical 
> teachings outlined in the Secret Doctrine. In fact, from a 
metaphysically sound 
> point of view, it blows the whole subsequent discussion, with 
respect to 
> teleportation and occult processes of materialization, etc., into a 
cocked hat. 

No, the only thing that has been blown lately is the ABC theory.

> Therefore, how can you justify conflating the human body -- and its 
so called 
> pre formative "rupa," that is actually the astral form which 
precedes the 
> physical ... 

Everything which has a form (rupa) has a form (rupa).

> that make up the objects themselves. 
> 
> all this talk of actual teleportation 
> of real objects and their dematerialization and materialization is 
just a lot 
> of speculative whistling in the wind, and a waste of time.

No, the ABC theory is a waste of time. That objects can be 
disintegrated is what your beloved theosophy teaches. It is in the 
SD. Whether it is true or not is yet to be determined.





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