Theos-Talk Archives (April 2004 Message tt00258)

Hallo Dallis,
Still you have a good explanation of that and others will have more 
on it.
But you tell me nothing new.
All this stuff I know, but there is no error in that metaphysical 
point only in the interpretation of the teacher.
As I wrote there are everywhere 7 principles, but the binding link 
between the 7 including the 6 others, the level of that stage of 
developement is finished, then starts the next level in chain with 
that highest Ultra atom (out of that higher level) and in the new 
developement start a 7 fold path again.
It is a pity for not showing a picture of that.
The 7 perfects and finished the 6 others.
After that is a factor 8 to go over to the new project.And all starts 
again only with a higher consciousness.
Thanks for your work on it
Christina












--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Dallas TenBroeck" <dalval14@e...> 
wrote:
> Part 1 -
> 
> 
> 
> March 7 2004
> 
> Dear Friends and C:
> 
> In regard to the evolutionary scheme of the universe and our Earth 
we
> need to study the first volume of the SECRET DOCTRINE . It is laid 
out
> clearly there, starting with the first principles and purpose of
> manifestation and evolution.
> 
> Let see if we can find something that offers an overview of this :
> 
> 
> ---------------------------
> 
> 
> THE EARTH CHAIN OF GLOBES
> 
> 
> The Editor has handed me a communication from a reader upon this 
subject
> which I insert here, as it on the one hand shows a very common 
defect of
> students-inaccuracy of reading, thought, and reference, and on the 
other
> will serve as a question which arises in other minds. It reads:
> 
> "Please state in reference to the Earth Chain of Globes whether it 
is
> meant to be conveyed on page 159 of S. D. Vol. I that the "seven 
globes
> from the 1st to the 7th proceed in seven Rounds," that each globe
> revolves seven times around the World Chain with its own particular
> development [say the Mineral Kingdom], before the next in order 
[say the
> Vegetable Kingdom] appears on Globe A? Or does the Mineral Kingdom 
only
> go once around the World Chain from I to 7? In Esoteric Buddhism, 
page
> 91, it is stated that the several kingdoms pass "several times 
around
> the whole circle as minerals, and then again several times as
> vegetables," but there is no distinct statement of this in S.D."-
> 
> Yours, IGNOTUS.
> 
> ---------------------
> 
> ANSWER
> 
> 
> Inaccuracies like those in the foregoing are not uncommon. They are
> constant and all-pervading. It is probably the fault of modern
> education, accentuated by the reading of a vast amount of 
superficial
> literature such as is poured out day by day. Any close observer can
> detect the want of attention displayed in metaphysical studies in
> contrast with the particular care given to matters of business and
> practical affairs of life. All those who are studying Theosophy 
ought to
> make themselves aware of this national defect, and therefore give 
the
> strictest attention to what they read upon metaphysics and devote 
less
> attention to the amount of such reading than to thinking upon what 
is
> read.
> 
> In the first place, the Secret Doctrine does not say on the page 
quoted,
> nor anywhere else, what "Ignotus" writes. Instead of reading as 
quoted,
> the passage is:
> 
> "I. Everything in the metaphysical as in the physical Universe is
> septenary. [p. 158] . . . THE EVOLUTION OF LIFE PROCEEDS ON THESE 
SEVEN
> GLOBES OR BODIES from the first to the seventh in Seven Rounds or 
Seven
> Cycles [p. 159]."
> 
> I insert in [CAPITAL LETTERS]... the omitted words, the word 
proceeds
> having been put out of its place by "Ignotus." The error makes a
> completely new scheme, one unphilosophical and certainly not given 
out
> by the Masters. But though some may wonder why I notice such a false
> assumption, it is right to take it up because it must have arisen
> through carelessness, yet of such a sort as might perpetuate an
> important error. It follows from the restoration of the passage 
that the
> Globes do not "revolve around the world chain." The supposition of 
the
> correspondent is not peculiar among the many hurried ones made by
> superficial readers. He first assumed that the various globes of the
> Earth-Chain revolved, in some way which he did not stop to 
formulate, in
> seven rounds-I presume in some imaginary orbit of their own-in what 
he
> called the "world chain," and then he went on adapting the rest of 
the
> evolutionary theory to this primary assumption. 
> 
> By reading the Secret Doctrine and the former articles on this 
subject
> in the PATH, the point in question will be made clear. Evolution of 
the
> monad, which produces and underlies all other evolutions, proceeds 
on
> the seven planetary bodies of any chain of evolution. These seven 
places
> or spheres for such evolution represent different states of
> consciousness, and hence, as written in the Secret Doctrine and
> attempted to be shown in these articles, they may and do 
interpenetrate
> each other with beings on each. Therefore all such words as "round,"
> "around," "chain," and the like must be examined metaphysically and 
not
> be allowed to give the mind a false notion such as is sure to arise 
if
> they are construed in the material way and from their materialistic
> derivation. "To go around" the seven globes does not mean that one
> passes necessarily from one place to another, but indicates a change
> from one condition to another, just as we might say that a 
man "went the
> whole round of sensations."
> 
> As to the other questions raised, Esoteric Buddhism is right in 
saying
> that the monads pass several times around the globes as minerals and
> vegetables, but wisely does not make the number and order very 
definite.
> In the Secret Doctrine one of the Masters writes that at the second
> round the order of the appearance of the human kingdom alters, but 
the
> letter goes no farther on that point except to say, as is very
> definitely put in the Secret Doctrine on p. 159, para. 4;
> 
> The Life Cycle . . . arrived on our Earth at the commencement of the
> Fourth in the present series of life-cycles and races. Man is the 
first
> form that appears thereon, being preceded only by the mineral and
> vegetable kingdoms-even the latter having to develop and continue 
its
> further evolution through man.
> 
> This states quite distinctly (a) that after the second round the 
order
> alters, and (b) that in the fourth round, instead of animals 
appearing
> as the first moving forms for the monads to inhabit, the human form
> comes first, preceded by mineral and vegetable, and followed by the
> brute-animal.
> 
> This change always comes on at any fourth round, or else we never 
could
> have evolutionary perfection. Other monads come originally from 
other
> spheres of evolution. In a new one such as this the preliminary 
process
> and order of mineral, plant, animal, human must be followed. But 
having
> in two or three rounds perfected itself in the task, the monad 
brings
> out 'the human form at the turning point, so that man as the model,
> means, guide, and savior may be able to intelligently raise up not 
only
> humanity but as well every other kingdom below the human. 
> 
> This is all made very clear and positive by repeated statement and
> explanation in the Secret Doctrine, and it is a matter for surprise 
that
> so many Theosophists do not understand it.
> 
> For fear that the present may be misunderstood I will add. Although 
the
> order of appearance of the human form alters as stated, this does 
not
> mean that the whole number of natural kingdoms does not make the
> sevenfold pilgrimage. They all make it, and in every round up to and
> including the seventh there are present in the chain of globes
> elemental, mineral, vegetable, animal, and human forms constituting
> those kingdoms, but of course the minerals and vegetables of the 
seventh
> round and race will be a very different sort from those of the 
present.
> 
> But as what a Master has said hereon is far better than my weak 
words, I
> will refer to that. Thus:
> 
> Nature consciously prefers that matter should be indestructible 
under
> organic rather than inorganic forms, and works slowly but 
incessantly
> towards the realization of this object-the evolution of conscious 
life
> out of inert material.
> 
> WILLIAM BREHON
> Path, April, 1893
> 
> 
> KALI YUGA AND THE COMING RACE
> 
> 
> (i) How many years are there in Kali Yuga? (2) Will the sixth sub-
race
> begin very soon, that is, will it be at the end of the cycle of the
> first five thousand years of Kali Yuga? (3) Cannot a person of the 
fifth
> race come near where the sixth race shall live?
> 
> (ii) Kali Yuga is said by the Brahmins and by the Secret Doctrine 
to be
> 432,000 years long. We will have to accept the calculation for the
> present.]
> 
> (2) Many thousands of years will pass before the next race will be 
here,
> and you will have died several times over before that, and also it 
is
> probable you will be one of that race unless you go to some other
> planet. You have made the error of sup-posing that the end of the 
cycle
> in 1898 is the end of the race. It is not. It is but a minor cycle,
> though quite important in its way. Hence-
> 
> (3) As we, including you, will be members of the new race in all
> probability if we take advantage of our opportunities, there is no
> profit in the question or its answer, for the sixth race not being 
due
> for so many centuries, and you being eligible for membership in it,
> there is no sequence. When the sixth race has fully come, many
> degenerate examples of the bodies of the fifth will be here with it 
and
> among it, but no special place will be kept for its development.
> 
> Path, January, 1895
> 
> ----------------------------------
> 
> A survey of the total evolutionary process is sent in Part 2
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> 
> Dallas
> 
> ============================
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:20 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Multiperpectivalists Unite!
> 
> :
> > March 7th 2004
> > 
> 
> Hallo Dallis, I hope I can make it clear ;
> 
> The 7 principles; right, but I also learned that the whole spinnery 
> from upside down will be One Ultimate or Ultra atom combines with 7
> principles its level 
> completed goes farther with a new aspect from all of that; even in 
7 
> principles with the link to the other level within the Ultra Atom.
> So the way down till we are now, humans on earth; 
> 
> We have to go back(in consciousness) to the higher levels and from 
> earth to another planet(Nw Jupiter) and then, evolutionairy as 
> angels, archangels( on the planet Nw Venus after) and so on 
Vulcanus 
> and after that the Manvantara will be finished .At least for the 
> human beings.
> 
> Continuously to create within the seven principles and then to 
> combine with the Ultra atom or spirit( maybe you call that the 
> zeropoint) to go over in a next level>
> 
> That is what I learned in my first lessons on theosophy.
> I think it is great to know that.
> 
> And in that greatness we need to help and to give others the 
insight 
> in that truth.
> 
> What do you think the Insight and Intuitive Buddhi light comes from?
> That comes to us( because we came out of it) to bring the whole 
> family , also that principles are doing ,up to the higher level(s)
> 
> so we all are in the lift (upgrowing).Animals, humans all of them.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
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> 
> Please proceed to Part 2 for a further more comprehensive survey