Theos-Talk Archives (April 2004 Message tt00247)

-Hallo Dallis ,

In my explanation I forgot to say that from the total 7
so the perfected level of 6 others
There will be a new level , made by a factor 8 = the UNITED FACTOR , 
the ultra- atom of the next level make then the start of that higher 
level and becomes, simpel said nr 1 with also taking 6 principels to 
develope in a perfect 7 .
The new developement take always a part of the perfected backward 
with to the next.
I hope I made it clear
It should be better to picture it.
Greeting Christina











- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Dallas TenBroeck" <dalval14@e...> 
wrote:
> Part 1 -
> 
> 
> 
> March 7 2004
> 
> Dear Friends and C:
> 
> In regard to the evolutionary scheme of the universe and our Earth 
we
> need to study the first volume of the SECRET DOCTRINE . It is laid 
out
> clearly there, starting with the first principles and purpose of
> manifestation and evolution.
> 
> Let see if we can find something that offers an overview of this :
> 
> 
> ---------------------------
> 
> 
> THE EARTH CHAIN OF GLOBES
> 
> 
> The Editor has handed me a communication from a reader upon this 
subject
> which I insert here, as it on the one hand shows a very common 
defect of
> students-inaccuracy of reading, thought, and reference, and on the 
other
> will serve as a question which arises in other minds. It reads:
> 
> "Please state in reference to the Earth Chain of Globes whether it 
is
> meant to be conveyed on page 159 of S. D. Vol. I that the "seven 
globes
> from the 1st to the 7th proceed in seven Rounds," that each globe
> revolves seven times around the World Chain with its own particular
> development [say the Mineral Kingdom], before the next in order 
[say the
> Vegetable Kingdom] appears on Globe A? Or does the Mineral Kingdom 
only
> go once around the World Chain from I to 7? In Esoteric Buddhism, 
page
> 91, it is stated that the several kingdoms pass "several times 
around
> the whole circle as minerals, and then again several times as
> vegetables," but there is no distinct statement of this in S.D."-
> 
> Yours, IGNOTUS.
> 
> ---------------------
> 
> ANSWER
> 
> 
> Inaccuracies like those in the foregoing are not uncommon. They are
> constant and all-pervading. It is probably the fault of modern
> education, accentuated by the reading of a vast amount of 
superficial
> literature such as is poured out day by day. Any close observer can
> detect the want of attention displayed in metaphysical studies in
> contrast with the particular care given to matters of business and
> practical affairs of life. All those who are studying Theosophy 
ought to
> make themselves aware of this national defect, and therefore give 
the
> strictest attention to what they read upon metaphysics and devote 
less
> attention to the amount of such reading than to thinking upon what 
is
> read.
> 
> In the first place, the Secret Doctrine does not say on the page 
quoted,
> nor anywhere else, what "Ignotus" writes. Instead of reading as 
quoted,
> the passage is:
> 
> "I. Everything in the metaphysical as in the physical Universe is
> septenary. [p. 158] . . . THE EVOLUTION OF LIFE PROCEEDS ON THESE 
SEVEN
> GLOBES OR BODIES from the first to the seventh in Seven Rounds or 
Seven
> Cycles [p. 159]."
> 
> I insert in [CAPITAL LETTERS]... the omitted words, the word 
proceeds
> having been put out of its place by "Ignotus." The error makes a
> completely new scheme, one unphilosophical and certainly not given 
out
> by the Masters. But though some may wonder why I notice such a false
> assumption, it is right to take it up because it must have arisen
> through carelessness, yet of such a sort as might perpetuate an
> important error. It follows from the restoration of the passage 
that the
> Globes do not "revolve around the world chain." The supposition of 
the
> correspondent is not peculiar among the many hurried ones made by
> superficial readers. He first assumed that the various globes of the
> Earth-Chain revolved, in some way which he did not stop to 
formulate, in
> seven rounds-I presume in some imaginary orbit of their own-in what 
he
> called the "world chain," and then he went on adapting the rest of 
the
> evolutionary theory to this primary assumption. 
> 
> By reading the Secret Doctrine and the former articles on this 
subject
> in the PATH, the point in question will be made clear. Evolution of 
the
> monad, which produces and underlies all other evolutions, proceeds 
on
> the seven planetary bodies of any chain of evolution. These seven 
places
> or spheres for such evolution represent different states of
> consciousness, and hence, as written in the Secret Doctrine and
> attempted to be shown in these articles, they may and do 
interpenetrate
> each other with beings on each. Therefore all such words as "round,"
> "around," "chain," and the like must be examined metaphysically and 
not
> be allowed to give the mind a false notion such as is sure to arise 
if
> they are construed in the material way and from their materialistic
> derivation. "To go around" the seven globes does not mean that one
> passes necessarily from one place to another, but indicates a change
> from one condition to another, just as we might say that a 
man "went the
> whole round of sensations."
> 
> As to the other questions raised, Esoteric Buddhism is right in 
saying
> that the monads pass several times around the globes as minerals and
> vegetables, but wisely does not make the number and order very 
definite.
> In the Secret Doctrine one of the Masters writes that at the second
> round the order of the appearance of the human kingdom alters, but 
the
> letter goes no farther on that point except to say, as is very
> definitely put in the Secret Doctrine on p. 159, para. 4;
> 
> The Life Cycle . . . arrived on our Earth at the commencement of the
> Fourth in the present series of life-cycles and races. Man is the 
first
> form that appears thereon, being preceded only by the mineral and
> vegetable kingdoms-even the latter having to develop and continue 
its
> further evolution through man.
> 
> This states quite distinctly (a) that after the second round the 
order
> alters, and (b) that in the fourth round, instead of animals 
appearing
> as the first moving forms for the monads to inhabit, the human form
> comes first, preceded by mineral and vegetable, and followed by the
> brute-animal.
> 
> This change always comes on at any fourth round, or else we never 
could
> have evolutionary perfection. Other monads come originally from 
other
> spheres of evolution. In a new one such as this the preliminary 
process
> and order of mineral, plant, animal, human must be followed. But 
having
> in two or three rounds perfected itself in the task, the monad 
brings
> out 'the human form at the turning point, so that man as the model,
> means, guide, and savior may be able to intelligently raise up not 
only
> humanity but as well every other kingdom below the human. 
> 
> This is all made very clear and positive by repeated statement and
> explanation in the Secret Doctrine, and it is a matter for surprise 
that
> so many Theosophists do not understand it.
> 
> For fear that the present may be misunderstood I will add. Although 
the
> order of appearance of the human form alters as stated, this does 
not
> mean that the whole number of natural kingdoms does not make the
> sevenfold pilgrimage. They all make it, and in every round up to and
> including the seventh there are present in the chain of globes
> elemental, mineral, vegetable, animal, and human forms constituting
> those kingdoms, but of course the minerals and vegetables of the 
seventh
> round and race will be a very different sort from those of the 
present.
> 
> But as what a Master has said hereon is far better than my weak 
words, I
> will refer to that. Thus:
> 
> Nature consciously prefers that matter should be indestructible 
under
> organic rather than inorganic forms, and works slowly but 
incessantly
> towards the realization of this object-the evolution of conscious 
life
> out of inert material.
> 
> WILLIAM BREHON
> Path, April, 1893
> 
> 
> KALI YUGA AND THE COMING RACE
> 
> 
> (i) How many years are there in Kali Yuga? (2) Will the sixth sub-
race
> begin very soon, that is, will it be at the end of the cycle of the
> first five thousand years of Kali Yuga? (3) Cannot a person of the 
fifth
> race come near where the sixth race shall live?
> 
> (ii) Kali Yuga is said by the Brahmins and by the Secret Doctrine 
to be
> 432,000 years long. We will have to accept the calculation for the
> present.]
> 
> (2) Many thousands of years will pass before the next race will be 
here,
> and you will have died several times over before that, and also it 
is
> probable you will be one of that race unless you go to some other
> planet. You have made the error of sup-posing that the end of the 
cycle
> in 1898 is the end of the race. It is not. It is but a minor cycle,
> though quite important in its way. Hence-
> 
> (3) As we, including you, will be members of the new race in all
> probability if we take advantage of our opportunities, there is no
> profit in the question or its answer, for the sixth race not being 
due
> for so many centuries, and you being eligible for membership in it,
> there is no sequence. When the sixth race has fully come, many
> degenerate examples of the bodies of the fifth will be here with it 
and
> among it, but no special place will be kept for its development.
> 
> Path, January, 1895
> 
> ----------------------------------
> 
> A survey of the total evolutionary process is sent in Part 2
> 
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> 
> Dallas
> 
> ============================
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:20 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Multiperpectivalists Unite!
> 
> :
> > March 7th 2004
> > 
> 
> Hallo Dallis, I hope I can make it clear ;
> 
> The 7 principles; right, but I also learned that the whole spinnery 
> from upside down will be One Ultimate or Ultra atom combines with 7
> principles its level 
> completed goes farther with a new aspect from all of that; even in 
7 
> principles with the link to the other level within the Ultra Atom.
> So the way down till we are now, humans on earth; 
> 
> We have to go back(in consciousness) to the higher levels and from 
> earth to another planet(Nw Jupiter) and then, evolutionairy as 
> angels, archangels( on the planet Nw Venus after) and so on 
Vulcanus 
> and after that the Manvantara will be finished .At least for the 
> human beings.
> 
> Continuously to create within the seven principles and then to 
> combine with the Ultra atom or spirit( maybe you call that the 
> zeropoint) to go over in a next level>
> 
> That is what I learned in my first lessons on theosophy.
> I think it is great to know that.
> 
> And in that greatness we need to help and to give others the 
insight 
> in that truth.
> 
> What do you think the Insight and Intuitive Buddhi light comes from?
> That comes to us( because we came out of it) to bring the whole 
> family , also that principles are doing ,up to the higher level(s)
> 
> so we all are in the lift (upgrowing).Animals, humans all of them.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
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> 
> Please proceed to Part 2 for a further more comprehensive survey