Theos-Talk Archives (March 2004 Message tt00761)

Morten,

In your latest email, you respond [in different extracts
below] to the Blavatsky quote found at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/15668

Your various comments I now give:

COMMENT 1

"I do not say that the quote by Blavatsky and K.H. are 
wrong. I just say, that one aught to relate such a 
quote to our present situation --- with about 300 sects of 
theosophists all claiming that they know it all...."

COMMENT 2

"I say, it is not relevant today - just like that - 
in a dead-letter sense."

COMMENT 3

"I said somthing like that it was not valid in the 
manner you presented it in in your email in question. 
I said also, that we aught to relate OLD written 
theosophical material to the time we live in."

Morten, you have NOT actually
told us HOW we should relate such a quote to our
present situation. No details are given.

You have NOT described HOW it would
be relevant today in some NON dead-letter sense.
No details given.

You have NOT given the manner 
in which the quote would be valid. No details given.

I give the quote again from Blavatsky's pen:

". . . A new and rapidly growing danger. . . is
threatening . . . the spread of the pure Esoteric
Philosophy and knowledge. . . . I allude to
those charlatanesque imitations of Occultism and
Theosophy. . . . By pandering to the prejudices
of people, and especially by adopting the false
ideas of a personal God and a personal, carnalized
Saviour, as the groundwork of their teaching, the
leaders of this 'swindle' (for such it is) are
endeavoring to draw men to them and in particular
to turn Theosophists from the true path."

". . . A close examination will assuredly reveal. . .
materials largely stolen . . . from Theosophical
writings. . . [and] distorted and falsified so as
to be palmed off on the unwary as revelations of
new and undreamed of truths. But many will neither
have the time nor the opportunity for such a thorough
investigation; and before they become aware of the
imposture they may be led far from the Truth. . . .
Nothing is more dangerous to Esoteric Truth than the
garbled and distorted versions disfigured to suit
the prejudices and tastes of men in general."

H. P. Blavatsky in "E.S. Instruction No. I.", 1889.
Quoted from: http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/ests1p2.htm

I will now tell you my understanding of what Blavatsky wrote. 

I take it that Blavatsky when she refers to "a personal, 
carnalized Saviour" is referring to certain teachings
concerning the Christ.

And I believe that one can see what Blavatsky is actually getting out
by comparing the above quote with the following two extracts
from Blavatsky:

". . . 'the coming of Christ,' means the presence of CHRISTOS in a
regenerated world, and not at all the actual coming in body
of 'Christ' Jesus; . . . for Christ--the true esoteric SAVIOUR--
is no man, but the DIVINE PRINCIPLE in every human being."

"Whether it be Krishna, Buddha, Sosiosh, Horus or Christos, it is a
universal PRINCIPLE....the Christians, by localizing and isolating
this great Principle, and denying it to any other man except Jesus of
Nazareth (or the Nazar), CARNALIZE the Christos of the Gnostics; that
alone prevents them having any point in common with the disciples of
the Archaic Wisdom. . . true Theosophists will never accept ...a
Christ made Flesh. . . ."

Therefore I suggest that Theosophical writers who write as Bailey did 
the following extracts are giving out (as HPB phrased it) "false 
ideas".

"They will prepare and work for conditions in the world in which
Christ can move freely among men, in bodily Presence; He need not
then remain in His present retreat in Central Asia."

"His reappearance and His consequent work cannot be confined to one
small locality or domain, unheard of by the great majority, as was
the case when He was here before. The radio, the press, and the
dissemination of news, will make His coming different to that of any
previous Messenger; the swift modes of transportation will make Him
available to countless millions, and by boat, rail and plane they can
reach Him: through television, His face can be made familiar to all,
and verily 'every eye shall see Him."

Let each student decide for himself.

And Morten, feel free to characterize my understanding as
"dead letter" or whatever. But you should give in turn
your detailed explanation of how we should REALLY understand
what HPB wrote.

Daniel
http://hpb.cc