Re: The Unthinkable Self...!
Mar 28, 2004 11:01 AM
by christinaleestemaker
Hallo Morton,
This is very clear and unveiled given,
Thanks Christina
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@a...> wrote:
> Hallo all of you,
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> My vies are:
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> I know, that some of you are not agreeing on the following.
> But I find it to be quite good.
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> http://www.theosophical.ca/CausalBody1.htm
> http://www.theosophical.ca/Images/causal10a.gif (Diagram IV)
> http://www.theosophical.ca/Images/causal13.gif (Diagram V)
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> "CHAPTER III
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> THE COMING FORTH OF THE MONADS
> Before considering the creative activity of the Third Logos, and
the detailed preparation of the field of evolution, we must note the
origination of the Monads or units of consciousness, for whose
evolution in matter the field of a universe is prepared. We shall
return to their fuller consideration in a later chapter.
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> The Myriads of these units, who are to be developed in the coming
universe, are generated within the divine life, before the field for
their evolution is formed. Of this forthgoing it has been
written : "That willed: I shall multiply and be born"
[Chhandopanishat VI.ii, 3] : thus the Many arise in the One by that
act of will. The act of will is that of the First Logos, the
undivided Lord, the Father.
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> The Monads are described as sparks of the Supreme Fire, as "Divine
fragments".The Occult Catechism , quoted in the Secret Doctrine . I.,
145, says: "Lift thy head, O Lanoo; dost thou see one, or countless,
lights above thee, burning in the midnight sky?' 'I sense One Flame,
O Gurudeva; I see countless, undetached sparks shining in it'." The
Flame is Ishvara, in His manifestation, as the First Logos; the
undetached sparks are the Monads, human and other. The
word "undetached" should be especially noted, as signifying that the
Monads are the Logos Himself.
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> A Monad may thus be defined as a fragment of the divine life,
separated off as an individual entity by rarest film of matter,
matter so rare that, while it gives, a separate form to each, it
offers no obstacle to the free intercommunication, of a life, thus
encased, with the surrounding similar lives.
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> A Monad is thus not pure consciousness, pure Self, samvit. That is
an abstraction. In the concrete universe there are always the Self
and his sheaths, however tenuous the sheaths may be, so that a unit
of consciousness is inseparable from matter. Hence a Monad is
consciousness plus matter.
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> The Monad of Theosophy, is the Jivatma of Indian Philosophy, the
Purusha of the Samkya, the particularised Self of the Vedanta.
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> The life of the Monads being thus of the First Logos, they may be
described as Sons of the Father, just as the Second Logos Himself is
the Son of the Father; but the Monads are but younger Sons, with none
of their divine powers, capable of acting in matter denser than that
of their own plane - the Anupadaka; while the Second Logos, with ages
of evolution behind Him, stands ready to exercise His divine
powers, "the first-born " among many brethren.
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> Whilst the roots of their life are in the Adi plane, the Monads
themselves dwell, on the Anupadaka Plane, as yet without vehicles in
which they can express, themselves, awaiting the day
of "manifestation" of the Sons of God".There they remain, while the
Third Logos begins the external work of manifestation, shaping the
matter of the objective universe. This work will be described, in the
next chapter.
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> Diagram IV indicates the Monads, waiting on their own plane whilst
the world, in which they are to develop is being fashioned."
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> The following might be of help:
> "PS The rejection of self, the anatma doctrine of Buddhism, seems
on the
> surface to be diametrically opposed to Theosophy, which posits a
spiritual
> Self. But Blavatsky clearly says that this spiritual Self is a ray
or
> emanation into our planetary chain from something she calls
a "divine
> Monad", and so seeing this spiritual Self as maya is not anti-
Theosophy at
> all. And the divine Monad is not a self, so there is really no
problem at
> all."
> http://theosophy.com/theos-talk/200203/tt00248.html
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> H. P. Blavatsky - The secret Doctrine, vol1. Proem, page 14
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> The Secret Doctrine establishes three fundamental propositions: -
> (a) An Omnipresent, Eternal, Boundless, and Immutable PRINCIPLE on
> which all speculation is impossible, since it transcends the power
of human
> conception and could only be dwarfed by any human expression or
similitude.
> It is beyond the range and reach of thought - in the words of
Mandukya,
> "unthinkable and unspeakable."
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> http://www.phx-ult-lodge.org/PROEM.pdf
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> H. P. Blavatsky - The secret Doctrine, vol1., page 52:
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> "The term Anupadaka, "parentless," or without progenitors, is a
mystical designation having several meanings in the philosophy. By
this name celestial beings, the Dhyan-Chohans or Dhyani-Buddhas, are
generally meant. But as these correspond mystically to the human
Buddhas and Bodhisattwas, known as the "Manushi (or human) Buddhas,"
the latter are also designated "Anupadaka," once that their whole
personality is merged in their compound sixth and seventh principles -
- or Atma-Buddhi, and that they have become the "diamond-souled"
(Vajra-sattvas),* the full Mahatmas. The "Concealed Lord" (Sangbai
Dag-po), "the one merged with the absolute," can have no parents
since he is Self-existent, and one with the Universal Spirit
(Svayambhu),** the Svabhavat in the highest aspect. The mystery in
the hierarchy of the Anupadaka is great, its apex being the universal
Spirit-Soul, and the lower rung the Manushi-Buddha; and even every
Soul-endowed man is an Anupadaka in a latent state. Hence, when
speaking of the Universe in its formless, eternal, or absolute
condition, before it was fashioned by the "Builders" -- the
expression, "the Universe was Anupadaka." (See Part II., "Primordial
Substance.")
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> [[Footnote(s)]] -------------------------------------------------
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> * Vajra -- diamond-holder. In Tibetan Dorjesempa; sempa meaning the
soul, its adamantine quality referring to its indestructibility in
the hereafter. The explanation with regard to the "Anupadaka" given
in the Kala Chakra, the first in the Gyu(t) division of the Kanjur,
is half esoteric. It has misled the Orientalists into erroneous
speculations with respect to the Dhyani-Buddhas and their earthly
correspondencies, the Manushi-Buddhas. The real tenet is hinted at in
a subsequent Volume, (see "The Mystery about Buddha"), and will be
more fully explained in its proper place.
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> ** To quote Hegel again, who with Schelling practically accepted
the Pantheistic conception of periodical Avatars (special
incarnations of the World-Spirit in Man, as seen in the case of all
the great religious reformers) . . . . "the essence of man is
spirit . . . . only by stripping himself of his finiteness and
surrendering himself to pure self-consciousness does he attain the
truth. Christ-man, as man in whom the Unity of God-man (identity of
the individual with the Universal consciousness as taught by the
Vedantins and some Adwaitees) appeared, has, in his death and history
generally, himself presented the eternal history of Spirit -- a
history which every man has to accomplish in himself, in order to
exist as Spirit." -- Philosophy of History. Sibree's English
translation, p. 340."
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> Re-reading Bowen's notes could also be helpful.
> http://www.katinkahesselink.net/metaphys/th-bowen.htm#n2
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> from
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> M. Sufilight with peace and love...
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