Theos-Talk Archives (March 2004 Message tt00358)

Hi,

Erica
> > For those dedicated 
> > to the study of Theosophy, it's more than clear
> that a
> > man of Jesus status, an Avatar would never get
> > physically involved with a woman. The Kama rupa of
> an
> > Avatar is purified without the presence of earthly
> > desires. In the `Practical Occultism' of HPB
> celibacy
> > it's stated in one of the rules. 
> 
Steve
> Some of the theosophists (many of them) were
> homosexual and therefore unmarried but none of them
were celibate.

Erica
We are not talking about members of the Theosophical
Society or whatever they were doing in their personnal
life. We are talking about Jesus he was an Avatar, I
think there is no doubt of that. 
If we talk about an Avatar or a Mahatma, or a person
of a higher level of iniciation their way of life is
completly different from ours. 
Yes they follow some rules, if we could name as rules.
Celibacy not as something imposed by the mind or by a
self control process, celibacy as a natural impulse of
a soul in the stage of a Mahatma or an Avatar. 

> Steve
> > In the gospel of Philip he mentions that Mary
> > Magdalene was a companion of Jesus, this does not
> > means a lover.
> 
> You have not read it. The text says Jesus bussed
> Mary on the mouth frequently. People did not do
that except to lovers.

Erica:

Yes I have read, but pay attention for the answer that
Jesus gave to the question. 

Philip:

59. The wisdom which (humans) call barren is the
Mother of the Angels. (Ph 40) And the Mate of the
[Christ] is Mariam Magdalene. The [Lord loved] Mariam
more than [all the other] Disciples, [and he] kissed
her often on her [mouth.] (Ph 35, 36) The other
[women] saw his love for Mariam,¹ they said to him: 

Why do thou love [her] more than all of us? || The
Savior° replied,¹ he said to them: Why do I not love
you as I do her? (¹asyndeton; Th 61b; interlinear) 

60. While a blind person and one who sees are both in
the dark, they do not differ from one another. But
when the light comes, then he who sees shall behold
the light yet he who is blind shall remain in the
darkness. (Th 34; interlinear) 

61. The Lord said: Blest be he who was before he came
into being. (=Th 19!) For he who is, both was and
shall be. (Rev/Ap 1:8

Romans 16:16 Salute one another with an holy kiss. 

A mother that kiss her child on the lips means that
she has an erotic relationship with the child? 

"Some scholars have interpreted the kiss in a more
spiritual sense and see kissing as a symbol for an
intimate reception of teaching, of the word of God, of
really learning. The image of Jesus and Mary as
engaged in mouth to mouth closeness suggests not
necessarily sexuality, but the transmission of divine
knowledge."
The real Mary Magdalene, Sunday 7 March on BBC Two, 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/features/biblemysteries/mary.shtml


Erica Letzerich

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Erica Letzerich
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"The Truth will set you free, but first will make you miserable"





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