Theos-Talk Archives (March 2004 Message tt00268)

> From: Pedro Oliveira <prmoliveira@yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: Theos-World HPB reincarnated?
> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 02:16:15 -0800 (PST)
>
> > It may sound wise on the surface, but are you the
> > ultimate definer of wisdom
> > and what "a real wise person" will do or not do?
> > What you say is likely good
> > wisdom for 99% of the situation. The kicker being
> > that 1% into which the
> > enlightened may or may not fall- iow, let the wise
> > decide.
>
> Although it may sound too categorical and dogmatic,
> the theosophical teaching does identify Atma (the true
> Self) with wisdom, as in the following passage from
> "Practical Occultism":
>
> "ATMA-VIDYA, a term which is translated simply
> “knowledge of the Soul,” true Wisdom by the
> Orientalists, but which means far more."
certainly.

> In Vedanta, for example, Atma is defined as pure,
> unconditioned consciousness, free from any taint of
> separateness. It is the "One without a second". HPB
> also mentions that the "I"-sense, the daily me, is
> centered in kama-manas, the desire-mind. Every
> identification with form, name, personal history,
> spiritual "status", etc. naturally come from this
> level of our being, including impressions about "past
> lives". Atma has no past, no future, as it is the
> eternal now.
Atma, as I have seen it defined (hah hah), is that expression of the One 
which individualizes as a monad, yet is consciously one with the One. 
Although it has no past nor future, it manifests as us within the fabric of 
time/space for its own purpose. That purpose has been defined ( 
satisfactorily to me, anyway) by Blavatsky, Bailey, and my own Master as 
"evolution of Spirit through form and substance"...whatever such terms may 
invoke.

> > Please try to
> > refrain from defining what true wisdom or the inner
> > Self are capable or
> > limited to-
>
> In my posting I used the expressions "perhaps" and "it
> is possible". They were intended to show that my
> opinion on these subjects is tentative. But these
> words are also expressions of a mantra I find very
> useful (and which I try to repeat on a daily basis):
> "I may be wrong."
That's a wise pov on the general face of it.
To reiterate, in my experience, Atma is our personalized "atom" of 
consciousness which does grow in conscious experience and performance. That 
growth is achieved in the field of mind, acting in form.
These concepts are not my discovery, rather I concur with them. In fact, I 
believe the esoteric teachings of Christ are all about that.
In any case, our "personal", for lack of a better term- Atma reincarnates 
here on this planet as each of us. We have longstanding relationships with 
others at all levels of energic expression, imo. If an advanced soul says 
he/she was a certain personality and another person was a different one, it 
could theoretically open up a can of ego-worms to deal with- but I wouldn't 
categorically limit what an advanced or wise person will or will not do in 
such a scenario.

regards-

Ali

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