Theos-Talk Archives (January 2004 Message tt00422)

Dear Dallas,

I think you may be unfamiliar with what is SARCASM...

Perhaps you've missed my sarcasm? Sorry if it went way over your head. My 
point is that there are those who go directly to the study of the Secret Doctrine 
and those who are so busy trying to verify if HPB was chosen by Masters that 
they don't bother to study it. The Secret Doctrine is forever a secret from those 
who adore the book "Blavatsky's Babboon" for instance. A whole group of 
people will not study deeply the Secret Doctrine because they believe they 
found the last word in Alice Bailey's Cosmic Fire, and that it explains the 
Secret Doctrine. So why stuggle to understand it. 

I have a feeling you took one message that I sent to this discussion list and 
threw it way out of context. If you bothered to read the discussion or some of 
my other e-mails you would probably understand instead of finding excuses 
to sending long excerpts, not that I mind them, of course. 

And I declare with all sincerity that there is no book I've studied more than 
HPB's Secret Doctrine. It is my constant desk companion. And I would not 
keep this knowledge from anyone out of selfishness. But I won't propagate it's 
learning either, unless someone comes to it of their own free will and accord. 
People come to the things they are ready for. 

Remember, Theosophy is not a religion of FAITH. It is a search for TRUTH. 
No-one needs to be converted to it. Sincere aspirants will come to what 
naturally rings TRUE if TRUTH is their goal. 

A^A^

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Dallas TenBroeck" <dalval14@e...> 
wrote:
> Jan 26 2004
> 
> Dear Ariel:
> 
> I think you may be unfamiliar with what is in the SECRET DOCTRINE ?
> 
> You have to go to it and see there what is useful to you.
> 
> ------------------------
> 
> The SECRET DOCTRINE is not designed to keep anything "secret".
> 
> On the contrary it is designed t show us what has been kept d so far
> pretty SECRET FROM US.
> 
> If you read and understand what is being offered, you will learn that
> there are laws and facts in nature that are the property of all human
> minds.
> 
> The Universe is run by rules and laws that support the lie of every
> being in it.
> 
> If we know those laws we will be better able to grow, learn, improve.
> 
> Further, the SECRET DOCTRINE gives us a review of the history of our
> evolution as well as that of the Universe and our world. It teaches
> REINCARNATION under LAW.
> 
> CONSIDER: some ideas of its scope as given in the following (below)
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Dallas
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> 
> THE ANCIENT SOURCE
> 
> 
> THE ANCIENT SOURCE [ SECRET DOCTRINE ]
> 
> 
> "Let us recapitulate and show, by the vastness of the subjects
> expounded, how difficult, if not impossible, it is to do them full
> justice. 
> 
> (1.) The Secret Doctrine is the accumulated Wisdom of the Ages, and its
> cosmogony alone is the most stupendous and elaborate system: e.g., even
> in the exotericism of the Puranas. But such is the mysterious power of
> Occult symbolism, that the facts which have actually occupied countless
> generations of initiated seers and prophets to marshal, to set down and
> explain, in the bewildering series of evolutionary progress, are all
> recorded on a few pages of geometrical signs and glyphs. 
> 
> The flashing gaze of those seers has penetrated into the very kernel of
> matter, and recorded the soul of things there, where an ordinary
> profane, however learned, would have perceived but the external work of
> form. 
> 
> But modern science believes not in the "soul of things," and hence will
> reject the whole system of ancient cosmogony. 
> 
> It is useless to say that the system in question is no fancy of one or
> several isolated individuals. That it is the uninterrupted record
> covering thousands of generations of Seers whose respective experiences
> were made to test and to verify traditions passed orally by one early
> race to another, of the teachings of higher and exalted beings, who
> watched over the childhood of Humanity. That for long ages, the "Wise
> Men" of the Fifth Race, of the stock saved and rescued from the last
> cataclysm and shifting of continents, had passed their lives in
> learning, not teaching. 
> 
> How did they do so? It is answered: by checking, testing, and verifying
> in every department of nature the traditions of old by the independent
> visions of great adepts; i.e., men who have developed and perfected
> their physical, mental, psychic, and spiritual organisations to the
> utmost possible degree. No vision of one adept was accepted till it was
> checked and confirmed by the visions-so obtained as to stand as
> independent evidence-of other adepts, and by centuries of experiences."
> S D I 272-3
> 
> -------------------------------
> 
> 
> "One of the greatest, and, withal, the most serious objection to the
> correctness and reliability of the whole work [the Secret Doctrine] will
> be the preliminary STANZAS ... [being] not in the possession of European
> Libraries. This is a great drawback to those who follow the methods of
> research prescribed by official Science; but to the students of
> Occultism, and to every genuine Occultist, this will be of little
> moment." Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., pages xxii - xxiii.
> 
> 
> "It has been claimed in all ages that ever since the destruction of the
> Alexandrian Library (see Isis Unveiled, Vol. II., p. 27), every work of
> a character that might have led the profane to the ultimate discovery
> and comprehension of some of the mysteries of the Secret Science, was,
> owing to the combined efforts of the members of the Brotherhoods,
> diligently searched for. It is added, moreover, by those who know that
> once found, save three copies left and stored safely away, such works
> were all destroyed. In India, the last of the precious manuscripts were
> secured and hidden during the reign of the Emperor Akbar."
> Secret Doctrine, Vol I., intro., page xxiii.
> 
> 
> "Moreover in all the large and wealthy lamaseries, there are
> subterranean crypts and cave-libraries, cut in the rock, whenever the
> gonpa and the lhakhang are situated in the mountains. Beyond the Western
> Tsaydam, in the solitary passes of Kuen-lun there are several such
> hiding-places. Along the ridge of Altyn-Toga, whose soil no European
> foot has ever trodden so far, there exists a certain hamlet, lost in a
> deep gorge. It is a small cluster of houses, a hamlet rather than a
> monastery, with a poor-looking temple in it, with one old lama, a
> hermit, living near by to watch it. Pilgrims say that the subterranean
> galleries and halls under it contain a collection of books, the number
> of which, according to the accounts given, is too large to find room
> even in the British Museum."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page
> xxiv. 
> 
> 
> "An immense, incalculable number of MSS, and even printed works known 
to
> have existed, are now to be found no more. They have disappeared without
> leaving the slightest trace behind them. Were they works of no
> importance they might, in the natural course of time, have been left to
> perish, and their very names would have been obliterated from human
> memory. But it is not so; for as now ascertained, most of them contained
> the true keys to works still extant, and entirely comprehensible, for
> the greater portion of their readers, without those additional volumes
> of commentaries and explanations. Such are, for instance, the works of
> Lao-tse, the predecessor of Confucius."	
> Secret Doctrine, Vol I., intro., page xxv
> 
> 
> "The Japanese, among whom are now to be found the most learned of the
> priests and followers of Lao-tse, simply laugh at the blunders and
> hypotheses of the European Chinese scholars; and tradition affirms that
> the commentaries to which our Western Sinologues have access are not the
> real occult records, but intentional veils, and that the true
> commentaries, as well as almost all the texts, have long since
> disappeared from the eyes of the profane."	
> Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page xxv.
> 
> 
> "They do not seem to allow for one moment the possibility that the texts
> may be lost only for West and for themselves; or, that the Asiatic
> people should have the unparalleled boldness to keep their most sacred
> records out of the reach of foreigners, thus refusing to deliver them to
> the profanation and misuse of races even so "vastly superior" to
> themselves."	
> Secret Doctrine, Vol I., intro., page xxviii.
> 
> 
> "As to the Chaldeans, they assuredly got their primitive learning from
> the Brahmans, for Rawlinson shows an undeniably Vedic influence in the
> early mythology of Babylon; and Col. Vans Kennedy has long since justly
> declared that Babylonia was, from her origin, the seat of Sanskrit and
> Brahman learning."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page
> xxxi.
> 
> 
> "In their efforts to collect together the many skeins of unwritten
> history, it is a bold step for our Orientalists to take, to deny, a
> priori, everything that does not dovetail with their special
> conclusions. Thus, while new discoveries are daily made of great arts
> and sciences having existed far back in the night of time, even the
> knowledge of writing is refused to some of the most ancient nations, and
> they are credited with barbarism instead of culture."
> Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page xxxii.
> 
> 
> "The traces of an immense civilization, even in Central Asia, are still
> to be found. This civilization is undeniably prehistoric. And how can
> there be civilization without a literature, in some form, without annals
> or chronicles? Common sense alone ought to supplement the broken links
> in the history of departed nations."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I,
> intro., page xxxii.
> 
> 
> "The gigantic, unbroken wall of the mountains that hem in the whole
> table-land of Tibet, from the upper course of the river Khuan-Khe; down
> to the Kara-Korum hills, witnessed a civilization during millenniums of
> years, and would have strange secrets to tell mankind. The Eastern and
> Central portions of those regions -- the Nan-Schayn and the Altyne-taga
> -- were once upon a time covered with cities that could well vie with
> Babylon. A whole geological period has swept over the land, since those
> cities breathed their last, as the mounds of shifting sand, and the
> sterile and now dead soil of the immense central plains of the basin of
> Tarim testify."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page xxxii.
> 
> 
> "But there is no need to send the reader across the desert, when the
> same proofs of ancient civilization are found even in comparatively
> populated regions of the same country. The oasis of Tchertchen, for
> instance, situated about 4,000 feet above the level of the river
> Tchertchen-D'arya, is surrounded with the ruins of archaic towns and
> cities in every direction. There, some 3,000 human beings represent the
> relics of about a hundred extinct nations and races -- the very names of
> which are now unknown to our ethnologists. An anthropologist would feel
> more than embarrassed to class, divide and subdivide them; the more so,
> as the respective descendants of all these antediluvian races and tribes
> know as little of their own forefathers themselves, as if they had
> fallen from the moon. When questioned about their origin, they reply
> that they know not whence their fathers had come ."	Secret Doctrine,
> Vol I, intro., page xxxiii.
> 
> 
> "To recapitulate. The Secret Doctrine was the universally diffused
> religion of the ancient and prehistoric world. Proofs of its diffusion,
> authentic records of its history, a complete chain of documents, showing
> its character and presence in every land with the teaching of all its
> great adepts, exist to this day in the secret crypts of libraries
> belonging to the Occult Fraternity."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro.,
> page xxxiv. 
> 
> 
> "This statement is rendered more credible by a consideration of the
> following facts: the tradition of the thousands of ancient parchments
> saved when the Alexandrian library was destroyed; the thousands of
> Sanskrit works which disappeared in India in the reign of Akbar; the
> universal tradition in China and Japan that the true old texts with the
> commentaries, which alone make them comprehensible - amounting to 
many
> thousands of volumes - have long passed out of the reach of profane
> hands; the disappearance of the vast sacred and occult literature of
> Babylon; the loss of those keys which alone could solve the thousand
> riddles of the Egyptian hieroglyphic records; the tradition in India
> that the real secret commentaries which alone make the Veda
> intelligible, though no longer visible to profane eyes, still remain for
> the initiate, hidden in secret caves and crypts; and an identical belief
> among the Buddhists, with regard to their secret books. The Occultists
> assert that all these exist, safe from Western spoliating hands, to
> re-appear in some more enlightened age." 
> Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page xxxiv.
> 
> 
> "For it is not the fault of the initiates that these documents are now
> "lost" to the profane; nor was their policy dictated by selfishness, or
> any desire to monopolise the life-giving sacred lore. There were
> portions of the Secret Science that for incalculable ages had to remain
> concealed from the profane gaze. But this was because to impart to the
> unprepared multitude secrets of such tremendous importance, was
> equivalent to giving a child a lighted candle in a powder magazine
> [armory]."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., pages xxxiv to xxxv.
> 
> 
> "The documents were concealed, it is true, but the knowledge itself and
> its actual existence had never been made a secret of by the Hierophants
> of the Temple, wherein MYSTERIES have ever been made a discipline and
> stimulus to virtue. This is very old news, and was repeatedly made known
> by the great adepts, from Pythagoras and Plato down to the
> Neoplatonists. It was the new religion of the Nazarenes that wrought a
> change for the worse - in the policy of centuries."
> Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page xxxv.
> 
> 
> "Is it [Theosophy] a new religion, we are asked? By no means; it is not
> a religion, nor is its philosophy new; for as already stated, it is as
> old as thinking man. Its tenets are not now published for the first
> time, but have been cautiously given out to, and taught by, more than
> one European Initiate - especially by the late Ragon."
> Secret Doctrine, Vol I., intro., page xxxvi.
> 
> 
> "These truths are in no sense put forward as a revelation; nor does the
> author claim the position of a revealer of mystic lore, now made public
> for the first time in the world's history. For what is contained in
> this work is to be found scattered through thousands of volumes
> embodying the scriptures of th great Asiatic and early European
> religions, hidden under glyph and symbol, and hitherto left unnoticed
> because of this veil."	.	Secret Doctrine, Vol. I,. preface, page
> ,vii
> 
> 
> "Thus every nation received in its turn some of the said truths, under
> the veil of its own local and special symbolism; which, as time went on,
> developed into a more or less philosophical cultus, a Pantheon in
> mythical disguise. Therefore is Confucius, a very ancient legislator in
> historical chronology, though a very modern Sage in the World's History,
> show by Dr. Legge - who calls him "emphatically a transmitter, not a
> maker "- as saying: "I only hand on: I cannot create new things. I
> believe in the ancients and therefore I love them." Secret Doctrine,
> Vol I, intro., pages xxxvi to xxxvii.
> 
> 
> "This first installment of the esoteric doctrines is based upon Stanzas,
> which are the records of a people unknown to ethnology; it is claimed
> that they are written in a tongue [Senzar] absent from the nomenclature
> of languages and dialects with which philology is acquainted; they are
> said to emanate from a source (Occultism) repudiated by science; and,
> finally, they are offered through an agency, incessantly discredited
> before the world by all those who hate unwelcome truths, or have some
> special hobby of their own to defend. Therefore, the rejection of these
> teachings may be expected, and must be accepted beforehand. No one
> styling himself a "scholar," in whatever department of exact science,
> will be permitted to regard these teachings seriously. They will be
> derided and rejected a priori in this century; but only in this one. For
> in the twentieth century of our era scholars will begin to recognize
> that the Secret Doctrine has neither been invented nor exaggerated, but,
> on the contrary, simply outlined; and finally, that its teachings
> antedate the Vedas."
> Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., pages xxxvi to xxxvii.
> 
> 
> "Have not the latter [the Vedas] been derided, rejected, and called "a
> modern forgery" even so recently as fifty years ago? [1838] Was not
> Sanskrit proclaimed at one time the progeny of, and a dialect derived
> from, the Greek, according to Lempriere and other scholars? About 1820,
> Prof. Max Muller tells us, the sacred books of the Brahmans, of the
> Magians, and of the Buddhists, "were all but unknown, their very
> existence was doubted, and there was not a single scholar who could have
> translated a line of the Veda ... of the Zend Avesta, or ... of the
> Buddhist Tripitaka, and now the Vedas are proved to be the work of the
> highest antiquity whose preservation amounts almost to a marvel.
> (Lecture on the Vedas)."
> Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., pages xxxvii to xxxviii.
> 
> 
> "The same will be said [is a forgery, etc.] of the Secret Archaic
> Doctrine, when proofs are given of its undeniable existence and records.
> But it will take centuries before much more is given from it. ... In
> Century the Twentieth some disciple more informed, and far better
> fitted, may be sent by the Masters of Wisdom to give final and
> irrefutable proofs that there exists a Science called Gupta-Vidya
> [secret, esoteric knowledge]; and that like the once-mysterious sources
> of the Nile, the source of all religions and philosophies now known to
> the world has been for many ages forgotten and lost to men, but is at
> last found."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page xxxviii.
> 
> 
> "He [the reader] is asked to give all his attention to that millennium
> which divided the pre-Christian and the post-Christian periods, by the
> year ONE of the Nativity. This event -- whether historically correct or
> not -- has nevertheless been made to serve as a first signal for the
> erection of manifold bulwarks against any possible return of, or even a
> glimpse into, the hated religions of the Past; hated and dreaded -
> because throwing such a vivid light on the new and intentionally veiled
> interpretation of what is now known as the "New dispensation." Secret
> Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page xl.
> 
> 
> "Over the portals of our own [era, millennium ?], the future seer may
> discern other words, that will point to the Karma for cunningly made-up
> HISTORY, for events purposely perverted, and for great characters
> slandered by posterity, mangled out of recognition, between the two cars
> of Jagannatha -- Bigotry and Materialism; one accepting too much, the
> other denying all."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page
> xli
> 
> 
> -----------------------------------------
> 
> 
> "These truths are in no sense put forward as a revelation; nor does the
> author claim the position of a revealer of mystic lore, now made public
> for the first time in the world's history. For what is contained in
> this work is to be found scattered throughout thousands of volumes
> embodying the scriptures of th great Asiatic and early European
> religions, hidden under glyph and symbol, and hitherto left unnoticed
> because of this veil." -- Secret Doctrine Vol. I. preface page vii
> 
> 
> "[Philosophy] repudiates in its name of Philo-Theo-Sophia the grotesque
> idea that Infinite, Absolute Deity should, or rather could, have any,
> whether direct or indirect, relation to finite illusive evolutions of
> matter, and therefore cannot imagine a universe outside that Deity, or
> the latter absent from the smallest speck of animate or inanimate
> substance."
> Secret Doctrine, Vol I, page 533
> 
> 
> "Pantheism may be "physically rediscovered." It was known, seen, and
> felt by the whole of antiquity. Pantheism manifests itself in the vast
> expanse of the starry heavens, in the breathing of the seas and oceans
> and the quiver of life of the smallest blade of grass. Philosophy
> rejects one finite and imperfect God in the universe, as the
> anthropomorphic deity of the monotheist is represented by his
> followers."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, page 533
> 
> 
> "It is the Sun-fluids or Emanations that impart all motion and awaken
> all into life, in the solar system. It is attraction and repulsion, but
> not as understood by modern physics and according to the law of gravity;
> but in harmony with the laws of Manvantaric motion designed from the
> early Sandhya the Dawn of the rebuilding and higher reformation of the
> System. These laws are immutable; but the motion of all the bodies,
> which motion is diverse and alters with every minor Kalpa - is regulated
> by the Movers, the Intelligences within the Cosmic soul."	Secret
> Doctrine, Vol I. pages 529-5308.
> 
> 
> "If ever this theory of the Sun-Force being the primal cause of all life
> on earth and motion in heaven is accepted, and if that other far bolder
> one of Herschell -- about certain organisms in the Sun-is accepted even
> as a provisional hypothesis, then will our teachings be vindicated, and
> esoteric allegory shown to have anticipated Modern Science by millions
> of years, probably, for these are the Archaic teachings."	Secret
> Doctrine, Vol I, page 529
> 
> 
> "Occultism has named it for ages, and so have all the ancient
> philosophers; but then all such beliefs are now proclaimed exploded
> superstitions. The "extra cosmic" God has killed every possibility of
> belief in intra-cosmic intelligent Forces, yet who, or what is the
> original pusher in that motion? "When we have learned the cause, unique
> et speciale, that pushes, we will be ready to combine it with the one
> which attracts," says Francoeur ("Astronomie," p. 342). And again -
> "Attraction between the celestial bodies is only repulsion: it is the
> Sun that drives them incessantly onward; for otherwise, their motion
> would stop." Secret Doctrine, Vol I, page 529
> 
> 
> "Atoms, Ether, or both, modern speculation cannot get out of the circle
> of ancient thought; and the latter was soaked through with archaic
> occultism."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, page 528.
> 
> 
> "Every fire has a distinct function and meaning in the worlds of the
> physical and the spiritual. It has, moreover, in its essential nature a
> corresponding relation to one of the human psychic faculties, besides
> its well determined chemical and physical potencies when coming in
> contact with the terrestrially differential matter. Science has no
> speculations to offer upon fire per se; Occultism and ancient religious
> science have. This is shown even in the meagre and purposely veiled
> phraseology of the Puranas, where (as in the Vayu Purana) many of the
> qualities of the personified fires are explained."	Secret
> Doctrine, Vol I, page 521.
> 
> 
> "The necessity is easily explained. Just as in old alchemical works the
> real meaning of the substances and elements meant are concealed under
> the most ridiculous metaphors, so are the physical, psychic, and
> spiritual natures of the Elements (say of fire) concealed in the Vedas,
> and especially in the Puranas, under allegories comprehensible only to
> the Initiates. Had they no meaning, then indeed all those long legends
> and allegories about the sacredness of the three types of fire, and the
> forty-nine original fires- personified by the Sons of Daksha's daughters
> and the Rishis, their husbands, "who with the first son of Brahma and
> his three descendants constitute the forty-nine fires" - would be
> idiotic verbiage and no more. But it is not so."	Secret
> Doctrine, Vol I, page 520
> 
> 
> "But to do this requires a boundless love of truth and the surrender of
> that prestige-however false-of infallibility, which the men of Science
> have acquired among the ignorant and flippant, though cultured, masses
> of the profane. To blend the two sciences, the archaic and the modern,
> requires first of all the abandonment of the actual materialistic lines.
> It necessitates a kind of religious mysticism and even the study of old
> magic, which our Academicians will never take up."	Secret Doctrine,
> Vol I, page 520
> 
> 
> "Science has no right to deny to the Occultists their claim to a more
> profound knowledge of the so-called Forces; which, they say, are only
> the effects of causes generated by Powers, substantial, yet
> supersensuous, and beyond any kind of matter with which they (the
> Scientists) have hitherto become acquainted. The most science can do is
> to assume the attitude of agnosticism and to maintain it. Then it can
> say: "Your case is no more proven than is ours; but we confess to
> knowing nothing in reality either about Force or matter, or that which
> lies at the bottom of the so-called correlations of Forces. Therefore,
> time alone can prove who is right and who is wrong. Let us wait
> patiently, and meanwhile show courtesy instead of scoffing at each
> other."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, page 520
> 
> 
> "Accept the explanations and teachings of Occultism, and, the Blind
> inertia of physical Science being replaced by the intelligent active
> Powers behind the veil of matter, motion and inertia become subservient
> to those Powers. It is on the doctrine of the illusive nature of
> matter, and the infinite divisibility of the atom, that the whole
> science of Occultism is built. It opens limitless horizons to substance
> informed by the divine breath of its soul in every possible state of
> tenuity, states still undreamt of by the most spiritually disposed
> chemists and pysicists."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, page, 520
> 
> 
> 
> KARMA
> 
> 
> "...at the first flutter of renascent life, Svabhavat, "the mutable
> radiance of the Immutable Darkness unconscious in Eternity," passes,
> at every new rebirth of Kosmos, from an inactive state into one of
> intense activity;... it differentiates, and then begins its work
> through that differentiation. This work is KARMA.
> 
> The Cycles are also subservient to the effects produced by this
> activity.
> 
> "The one Cosmic atom becomes seven atoms on the plane of matter, and
> each is transformed into a centre of energy; that same atom
> becomes seven rays on the plane of spirit, and the seven creative
> forces of nature, radiating from the root-essence . . . . follow, one
> the right, the other the left path, separate till the end of the
> Kalpa, and yet are in close embrace. What unites them? KARMA." The
> atoms emanated from the Central Point emanate in their turn new
> centres of energy, which, under the potential breath of
> Fohat, begin their work from within without, and multiply other minor
> centres. These, in the course of evolution and involution, form in their
> turn the roots or developing causes of new effects, from worlds and
> "man-bearing" globes, down to the genera, species, and classes of all
> the seven kingdoms* (of which we know only four)."	Secret Doctrine,
> I 635
> 
> 
> "...history tells us that the masses adopted Buddhism with enthusiasm,
> while, as said before, the practical effect upon them of this philosophy
> of ethics is still shown by the smallness of the percentage of crime
> amongst Buddhist populations as compared with every other religion. The
> chief point is, to uproot that most fertile source of all crime and
> immorality -- the belief that it is possible for them to escape the
> consequences of their own actions. Once teach them that greatest of all
> laws, Karma and Re-incarnation, and besides feeling in themselves the
> true dignity of human nature, they will turn from evil and eschew it as
> they would a physical
> danger."	Key p. 248
> 
> 
> 
> 
> WATERS - CHAOS -- FEMALE PRINCIPLE
> 
> "The Waters of Life, or Chaos - the female principle in symbolism - are
> the vacuum (to our mental sight) in which lie the latent Spirit and
> matter. ... In all Cosmogonies "Water" plays the same important part.
> It is the base and source of material existence. Scientists, mistaking
> the word for the thing, understood by water the definite chemical
> combination of oxygen and hydrogen, thus giving a specific meaning to a
> term used by Occultists in a generic sense, and which is used in
> Cosmogony with a metaphysical and mystical meaning."	. Secret
> Doctrine, Vol I, page 64
> 
> 
> "Stanza III -- Sloka 2: THE VIBRATION SWEEPS ALONG, TOUCHING WITH 
ITS
> SWIFT WING (SIMULTANEOUSLY) THE WHOLE UNIVERSE, AND THE 
GERM THAT
> DWELLETH IN DARKNESS: THE DARKNESS THAT BREATHES (MOVES) 
OVER THE
> SLUMBERING WATERS OF LIFE. ... The idea of the "breath" of Darkness
> moving over "the slumbering Waters of life," which is primordial matter
> with the latent Spirit in it, recalls the first chapter of genesis."
> -- Secret Doctrine Vol I pages 63-64.
> 
> 
> "All this, teaches the hidden Science, is but the temporary reflection,
> the shadow of the eternal ideal prototype in Divine Thought; the word
> "Eternal," note well again, standing here only in the sense of "Aeon,"
> as lasting throughout the seemingly interminable, but still limited
> cycle of activity, called by us Manvantara."	Secret Doctrine, Vol
> I, page 63
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ariela
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 10:21 AM
> To: 
> Subject: why blavatsky?
> 
> 
> If too many people study the Secret Doctine, it wouldn't be "secret"
> anymore.
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "arielaretziel" <arielaretziel@y...>
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > My question is this, if the Wisdom is found everywhere, why propigate
> one
> 
> 
> > version of it? I personally like The Secret Doctrine and someone else
> may
> like the Necronomicon. We find people with the same interest and
> discuss our 
> > own things. 
> 
> 
> The world can be saved without everyone learning the Secret 
> > Doctrine. 
> > 
> > PR is for salesmen. I have nothing to sell and neither does HPB. 
> 
> This Wisdom comes for free. 
> >