Theos-Talk Archives (January 2004 Message tt00412)

Jan 26 2004

Dear Ariel:

I think you may be unfamiliar with what is in the SECRET DOCTRINE ?

You have to go to it and see there what is useful to you.

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The SECRET DOCTRINE is not designed to keep anything "secret".

On the contrary it is designed t show us what has been kept d so far
pretty SECRET FROM US.

If you read and understand what is being offered, you will learn that
there are laws and facts in nature that are the property of all human
minds.

The Universe is run by rules and laws that support the lie of every
being in it.

If we know those laws we will be better able to grow, learn, improve.

Further, the SECRET DOCTRINE gives us a review of the history of our
evolution as well as that of the Universe and our world. It teaches
REINCARNATION under LAW.

CONSIDER: some ideas of its scope as given in the following (below)

Best wishes,

Dallas


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THE ANCIENT SOURCE


THE ANCIENT SOURCE [ SECRET DOCTRINE ]


"Let us recapitulate and show, by the vastness of the subjects
expounded, how difficult, if not impossible, it is to do them full
justice. 

(1.) The Secret Doctrine is the accumulated Wisdom of the Ages, and its
cosmogony alone is the most stupendous and elaborate system: e.g., even
in the exotericism of the Puranas. But such is the mysterious power of
Occult symbolism, that the facts which have actually occupied countless
generations of initiated seers and prophets to marshal, to set down and
explain, in the bewildering series of evolutionary progress, are all
recorded on a few pages of geometrical signs and glyphs. 

The flashing gaze of those seers has penetrated into the very kernel of
matter, and recorded the soul of things there, where an ordinary
profane, however learned, would have perceived but the external work of
form. 

But modern science believes not in the "soul of things," and hence will
reject the whole system of ancient cosmogony. 

It is useless to say that the system in question is no fancy of one or
several isolated individuals. That it is the uninterrupted record
covering thousands of generations of Seers whose respective experiences
were made to test and to verify traditions passed orally by one early
race to another, of the teachings of higher and exalted beings, who
watched over the childhood of Humanity. That for long ages, the "Wise
Men" of the Fifth Race, of the stock saved and rescued from the last
cataclysm and shifting of continents, had passed their lives in
learning, not teaching. 

How did they do so? It is answered: by checking, testing, and verifying
in every department of nature the traditions of old by the independent
visions of great adepts; i.e., men who have developed and perfected
their physical, mental, psychic, and spiritual organisations to the
utmost possible degree. No vision of one adept was accepted till it was
checked and confirmed by the visions-so obtained as to stand as
independent evidence-of other adepts, and by centuries of experiences."
S D I 272-3

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"One of the greatest, and, withal, the most serious objection to the
correctness and reliability of the whole work [the Secret Doctrine] will
be the preliminary STANZAS ... [being] not in the possession of European
Libraries. This is a great drawback to those who follow the methods of
research prescribed by official Science; but to the students of
Occultism, and to every genuine Occultist, this will be of little
moment." Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., pages xxii - xxiii.


"It has been claimed in all ages that ever since the destruction of the
Alexandrian Library (see Isis Unveiled, Vol. II., p. 27), every work of
a character that might have led the profane to the ultimate discovery
and comprehension of some of the mysteries of the Secret Science, was,
owing to the combined efforts of the members of the Brotherhoods,
diligently searched for. It is added, moreover, by those who know that
once found, save three copies left and stored safely away, such works
were all destroyed. In India, the last of the precious manuscripts were
secured and hidden during the reign of the Emperor Akbar."
Secret Doctrine, Vol I., intro., page xxiii.


"Moreover in all the large and wealthy lamaseries, there are
subterranean crypts and cave-libraries, cut in the rock, whenever the
gonpa and the lhakhang are situated in the mountains. Beyond the Western
Tsaydam, in the solitary passes of Kuen-lun there are several such
hiding-places. Along the ridge of Altyn-Toga, whose soil no European
foot has ever trodden so far, there exists a certain hamlet, lost in a
deep gorge. It is a small cluster of houses, a hamlet rather than a
monastery, with a poor-looking temple in it, with one old lama, a
hermit, living near by to watch it. Pilgrims say that the subterranean
galleries and halls under it contain a collection of books, the number
of which, according to the accounts given, is too large to find room
even in the British Museum."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page
xxiv. 


"An immense, incalculable number of MSS, and even printed works known to
have existed, are now to be found no more. They have disappeared without
leaving the slightest trace behind them. Were they works of no
importance they might, in the natural course of time, have been left to
perish, and their very names would have been obliterated from human
memory. But it is not so; for as now ascertained, most of them contained
the true keys to works still extant, and entirely comprehensible, for
the greater portion of their readers, without those additional volumes
of commentaries and explanations. Such are, for instance, the works of
Lao-tse, the predecessor of Confucius."	
Secret Doctrine, Vol I., intro., page xxv


"The Japanese, among whom are now to be found the most learned of the
priests and followers of Lao-tse, simply laugh at the blunders and
hypotheses of the European Chinese scholars; and tradition affirms that
the commentaries to which our Western Sinologues have access are not the
real occult records, but intentional veils, and that the true
commentaries, as well as almost all the texts, have long since
disappeared from the eyes of the profane."	
Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page xxv.


"They do not seem to allow for one moment the possibility that the texts
may be lost only for West and for themselves; or, that the Asiatic
people should have the unparalleled boldness to keep their most sacred
records out of the reach of foreigners, thus refusing to deliver them to
the profanation and misuse of races even so "vastly superior" to
themselves."	
Secret Doctrine, Vol I., intro., page xxviii.


"As to the Chaldeans, they assuredly got their primitive learning from
the Brahmans, for Rawlinson shows an undeniably Vedic influence in the
early mythology of Babylon; and Col. Vans Kennedy has long since justly
declared that Babylonia was, from her origin, the seat of Sanskrit and
Brahman learning."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page
xxxi.


"In their efforts to collect together the many skeins of unwritten
history, it is a bold step for our Orientalists to take, to deny, a
priori, everything that does not dovetail with their special
conclusions. Thus, while new discoveries are daily made of great arts
and sciences having existed far back in the night of time, even the
knowledge of writing is refused to some of the most ancient nations, and
they are credited with barbarism instead of culture."
Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page xxxii.


"The traces of an immense civilization, even in Central Asia, are still
to be found. This civilization is undeniably prehistoric. And how can
there be civilization without a literature, in some form, without annals
or chronicles? Common sense alone ought to supplement the broken links
in the history of departed nations."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I,
intro., page xxxii.


"The gigantic, unbroken wall of the mountains that hem in the whole
table-land of Tibet, from the upper course of the river Khuan-Khe; down
to the Kara-Korum hills, witnessed a civilization during millenniums of
years, and would have strange secrets to tell mankind. The Eastern and
Central portions of those regions -- the Nan-Schayn and the Altyne-taga
-- were once upon a time covered with cities that could well vie with
Babylon. A whole geological period has swept over the land, since those
cities breathed their last, as the mounds of shifting sand, and the
sterile and now dead soil of the immense central plains of the basin of
Tarim testify."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page xxxii.


"But there is no need to send the reader across the desert, when the
same proofs of ancient civilization are found even in comparatively
populated regions of the same country. The oasis of Tchertchen, for
instance, situated about 4,000 feet above the level of the river
Tchertchen-D'arya, is surrounded with the ruins of archaic towns and
cities in every direction. There, some 3,000 human beings represent the
relics of about a hundred extinct nations and races -- the very names of
which are now unknown to our ethnologists. An anthropologist would feel
more than embarrassed to class, divide and subdivide them; the more so,
as the respective descendants of all these antediluvian races and tribes
know as little of their own forefathers themselves, as if they had
fallen from the moon. When questioned about their origin, they reply
that they know not whence their fathers had come ."	Secret Doctrine,
Vol I, intro., page xxxiii.


"To recapitulate. The Secret Doctrine was the universally diffused
religion of the ancient and prehistoric world. Proofs of its diffusion,
authentic records of its history, a complete chain of documents, showing
its character and presence in every land with the teaching of all its
great adepts, exist to this day in the secret crypts of libraries
belonging to the Occult Fraternity."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro.,
page xxxiv. 


"This statement is rendered more credible by a consideration of the
following facts: the tradition of the thousands of ancient parchments
saved when the Alexandrian library was destroyed; the thousands of
Sanskrit works which disappeared in India in the reign of Akbar; the
universal tradition in China and Japan that the true old texts with the
commentaries, which alone make them comprehensible - amounting to many
thousands of volumes - have long passed out of the reach of profane
hands; the disappearance of the vast sacred and occult literature of
Babylon; the loss of those keys which alone could solve the thousand
riddles of the Egyptian hieroglyphic records; the tradition in India
that the real secret commentaries which alone make the Veda
intelligible, though no longer visible to profane eyes, still remain for
the initiate, hidden in secret caves and crypts; and an identical belief
among the Buddhists, with regard to their secret books. The Occultists
assert that all these exist, safe from Western spoliating hands, to
re-appear in some more enlightened age."   
Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page xxxiv.


"For it is not the fault of the initiates that these documents are now
"lost" to the profane; nor was their policy dictated by selfishness, or
any desire to monopolise the life-giving sacred lore. There were
portions of the Secret Science that for incalculable ages had to remain
concealed from the profane gaze. But this was because to impart to the
unprepared multitude secrets of such tremendous importance, was
equivalent to giving a child a lighted candle in a powder magazine
[armory]."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., pages xxxiv to xxxv.


"The documents were concealed, it is true, but the knowledge itself and
its actual existence had never been made a secret of by the Hierophants
of the Temple, wherein MYSTERIES have ever been made a discipline and
stimulus to virtue. This is very old news, and was repeatedly made known
by the great adepts, from Pythagoras and Plato down to the
Neoplatonists. It was the new religion of the Nazarenes that wrought a
change for the worse - in the policy of centuries."
Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page xxxv.


"Is it [Theosophy] a new religion, we are asked? By no means; it is not
a religion, nor is its philosophy new; for as already stated, it is as
old as thinking man. Its tenets are not now published for the first
time, but have been cautiously given out to, and taught by, more than
one European Initiate - especially by the late Ragon."
Secret Doctrine, Vol I., intro., page xxxvi.


"These truths are in no sense put forward as a revelation; nor does the
author claim the position of a revealer of mystic lore, now made public
for the first time in the world's history. For what is contained in
this work is to be found scattered through thousands of volumes
embodying the scriptures of th great Asiatic and early European
religions, hidden under glyph and symbol, and hitherto left unnoticed
because of this veil."	.	Secret Doctrine, Vol. I,. preface, page
,vii


"Thus every nation received in its turn some of the said truths, under
the veil of its own local and special symbolism; which, as time went on,
developed into a more or less philosophical cultus, a Pantheon in
mythical disguise. Therefore is Confucius, a very ancient legislator in
historical chronology, though a very modern Sage in the World's History,
show by Dr. Legge - who calls him "emphatically a transmitter, not a
maker "- as saying: "I only hand on: I cannot create new things. I
believe in the ancients and therefore I love them." Secret Doctrine,
Vol I, intro., pages xxxvi to xxxvii.


"This first installment of the esoteric doctrines is based upon Stanzas,
which are the records of a people unknown to ethnology; it is claimed
that they are written in a tongue [Senzar] absent from the nomenclature
of languages and dialects with which philology is acquainted; they are
said to emanate from a source (Occultism) repudiated by science; and,
finally, they are offered through an agency, incessantly discredited
before the world by all those who hate unwelcome truths, or have some
special hobby of their own to defend. Therefore, the rejection of these
teachings may be expected, and must be accepted beforehand. No one
styling himself a "scholar," in whatever department of exact science,
will be permitted to regard these teachings seriously. They will be
derided and rejected a priori in this century; but only in this one. For
in the twentieth century of our era scholars will begin to recognize
that the Secret Doctrine has neither been invented nor exaggerated, but,
on the contrary, simply outlined; and finally, that its teachings
antedate the Vedas."
Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., pages xxxvi to xxxvii.


"Have not the latter [the Vedas] been derided, rejected, and called "a
modern forgery" even so recently as fifty years ago? [1838] Was not
Sanskrit proclaimed at one time the progeny of, and a dialect derived
from, the Greek, according to Lempriere and other scholars? About 1820,
Prof. Max Muller tells us, the sacred books of the Brahmans, of the
Magians, and of the Buddhists, "were all but unknown, their very
existence was doubted, and there was not a single scholar who could have
translated a line of the Veda ... of the Zend Avesta, or ... of the
Buddhist Tripitaka, and now the Vedas are proved to be the work of the
highest antiquity whose preservation amounts almost to a marvel.
(Lecture on the Vedas)."
Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., pages xxxvii to xxxviii.


"The same will be said [is a forgery, etc.] of the Secret Archaic
Doctrine, when proofs are given of its undeniable existence and records.
But it will take centuries before much more is given from it. ... In
Century the Twentieth some disciple more informed, and far better
fitted, may be sent by the Masters of Wisdom to give final and
irrefutable proofs that there exists a Science called Gupta-Vidya
[secret, esoteric knowledge]; and that like the once-mysterious sources
of the Nile, the source of all religions and philosophies now known to
the world has been for many ages forgotten and lost to men, but is at
last found."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page xxxviii.


"He [the reader] is asked to give all his attention to that millennium
which divided the pre-Christian and the post-Christian periods, by the
year ONE of the Nativity. This event -- whether historically correct or
not -- has nevertheless been made to serve as a first signal for the
erection of manifold bulwarks against any possible return of, or even a
glimpse into, the hated religions of the Past; hated and dreaded -
because throwing such a vivid light on the new and intentionally veiled
interpretation of what is now known as the "New dispensation." Secret
Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page xl.


"Over the portals of our own [era, millennium ?], the future seer may
discern other words, that will point to the Karma for cunningly made-up
HISTORY, for events purposely perverted, and for great characters
slandered by posterity, mangled out of recognition, between the two cars
of Jagannatha -- Bigotry and Materialism; one accepting too much, the
other denying all."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, intro., page
xli


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"These truths are in no sense put forward as a revelation; nor does the
author claim the position of a revealer of mystic lore, now made public
for the first time in the world's history. For what is contained in
this work is to be found scattered throughout thousands of volumes
embodying the scriptures of th great Asiatic and early European
religions, hidden under glyph and symbol, and hitherto left unnoticed
because of this veil." -- Secret Doctrine Vol. I. preface page vii


"[Philosophy] repudiates in its name of Philo-Theo-Sophia the grotesque
idea that Infinite, Absolute Deity should, or rather could, have any,
whether direct or indirect, relation to finite illusive evolutions of
matter, and therefore cannot imagine a universe outside that Deity, or
the latter absent from the smallest speck of animate or inanimate
substance."
Secret Doctrine, Vol I, page 533


"Pantheism may be "physically rediscovered." It was known, seen, and
felt by the whole of antiquity. Pantheism manifests itself in the vast
expanse of the starry heavens, in the breathing of the seas and oceans
and the quiver of life of the smallest blade of grass. Philosophy
rejects one finite and imperfect God in the universe, as the
anthropomorphic deity of the monotheist is represented by his
followers."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, page 533


"It is the Sun-fluids or Emanations that impart all motion and awaken
all into life, in the solar system. It is attraction and repulsion, but
not as understood by modern physics and according to the law of gravity;
but in harmony with the laws of Manvantaric motion designed from the
early Sandhya the Dawn of the rebuilding and higher reformation of the
System. These laws are immutable; but the motion of all the bodies,
which motion is diverse and alters with every minor Kalpa - is regulated
by the Movers, the Intelligences within the Cosmic soul."	Secret
Doctrine, Vol I. pages 529-5308.


"If ever this theory of the Sun-Force being the primal cause of all life
on earth and motion in heaven is accepted, and if that other far bolder
one of Herschell -- about certain organisms in the Sun-is accepted even
as a provisional hypothesis, then will our teachings be vindicated, and
esoteric allegory shown to have anticipated Modern Science by millions
of years, probably, for these are the Archaic teachings."	Secret
Doctrine, Vol I, page 529


"Occultism has named it for ages, and so have all the ancient
philosophers; but then all such beliefs are now proclaimed exploded
superstitions. The "extra cosmic" God has killed every possibility of
belief in intra-cosmic intelligent Forces, yet who, or what is the
original pusher in that motion? "When we have learned the cause, unique
et speciale, that pushes, we will be ready to combine it with the one
which attracts," says Francoeur ("Astronomie," p. 342). And again -
"Attraction between the celestial bodies is only repulsion: it is the
Sun that drives them incessantly onward; for otherwise, their motion
would stop." Secret Doctrine, Vol I, page 529


"Atoms, Ether, or both, modern speculation cannot get out of the circle
of ancient thought; and the latter was soaked through with archaic
occultism."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, page 528.


"Every fire has a distinct function and meaning in the worlds of the
physical and the spiritual. It has, moreover, in its essential nature a
corresponding relation to one of the human psychic faculties, besides
its well determined chemical and physical potencies when coming in
contact with the terrestrially differential matter. Science has no
speculations to offer upon fire per se; Occultism and ancient religious
science have. This is shown even in the meagre and purposely veiled
phraseology of the Puranas, where (as in the Vayu Purana) many of the
qualities of the personified fires are explained."	Secret
Doctrine, Vol I, page 521.


"The necessity is easily explained. Just as in old alchemical works the
real meaning of the substances and elements meant are concealed under
the most ridiculous metaphors, so are the physical, psychic, and
spiritual natures of the Elements (say of fire) concealed in the Vedas,
and especially in the Puranas, under allegories comprehensible only to
the Initiates. Had they no meaning, then indeed all those long legends
and allegories about the sacredness of the three types of fire, and the
forty-nine original fires- personified by the Sons of Daksha's daughters
and the Rishis, their husbands, "who with the first son of Brahma and
his three descendants constitute the forty-nine fires" - would be
idiotic verbiage and no more. But it is not so."	Secret
Doctrine, Vol I, page 520


"But to do this requires a boundless love of truth and the surrender of
that prestige-however false-of infallibility, which the men of Science
have acquired among the ignorant and flippant, though cultured, masses
of the profane. To blend the two sciences, the archaic and the modern,
requires first of all the abandonment of the actual materialistic lines.
It necessitates a kind of religious mysticism and even the study of old
magic, which our Academicians will never take up."	Secret Doctrine,
Vol I, page 520


"Science has no right to deny to the Occultists their claim to a more
profound knowledge of the so-called Forces; which, they say, are only
the effects of causes generated by Powers, substantial, yet
supersensuous, and beyond any kind of matter with which they (the
Scientists) have hitherto become acquainted. The most science can do is
to assume the attitude of agnosticism and to maintain it. Then it can
say: "Your case is no more proven than is ours; but we confess to
knowing nothing in reality either about Force or matter, or that which
lies at the bottom of the so-called correlations of Forces. Therefore,
time alone can prove who is right and who is wrong. Let us wait
patiently, and meanwhile show courtesy instead of scoffing at each
other."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, page 520


"Accept the explanations and teachings of Occultism, and, the Blind
inertia of physical Science being replaced by the intelligent active
Powers behind the veil of matter, motion and inertia become subservient
to those Powers. It is on the doctrine of the illusive nature of
matter, and the infinite divisibility of the atom, that the whole
science of Occultism is built. It opens limitless horizons to substance
informed by the divine breath of its soul in every possible state of
tenuity, states still undreamt of by the most spiritually disposed
chemists and pysicists."	Secret Doctrine, Vol I, page, 520



KARMA


"...at the first flutter of renascent life, Svabhavat, "the mutable
radiance of the Immutable Darkness unconscious in Eternity," passes,
at every new rebirth of Kosmos, from an inactive state into one of
intense activity;... it differentiates, and then begins its work
through that differentiation. This work is KARMA.
  
The Cycles are also subservient to the effects produced by this
activity.

"The one Cosmic atom becomes seven atoms on the plane of matter, and
each is transformed into a centre of energy; that same atom
becomes seven rays on the plane of spirit, and the seven creative
forces of nature, radiating from the root-essence . . . . follow, one
the right, the other the left path, separate till the end of the
Kalpa, and yet are in close embrace. What unites them? KARMA." The
atoms emanated from the Central Point emanate in their turn new
centres of energy, which, under the potential breath of
Fohat, begin their work from within without, and multiply other minor
centres. These, in the course of evolution and involution, form in their
turn the roots or developing causes of new effects, from worlds and
"man-bearing" globes, down to the genera, species, and classes of all
the seven kingdoms* (of which we know only four)."	Secret Doctrine,
I 635


"...history tells us that the masses adopted Buddhism with enthusiasm,
while, as said before, the practical effect upon them of this philosophy
of ethics is still shown by the smallness of the percentage of crime
amongst Buddhist populations as compared with every other religion. The
chief point is, to uproot that most fertile source of all crime and
immorality -- the belief that it is possible for them to escape the
consequences of their own actions. Once teach them that greatest of all
laws, Karma and Re-incarnation, and besides feeling in themselves the
true dignity of human nature, they will turn from evil and eschew it as
they would a physical
danger."	Key p. 248




WATERS - CHAOS -- FEMALE PRINCIPLE

"The Waters of Life, or Chaos - the female principle in symbolism - are
the vacuum (to our mental sight) in which lie the latent Spirit and
matter. ... In all Cosmogonies "Water" plays the same important part.
It is the base and source of material existence. Scientists, mistaking
the word for the thing, understood by water the definite chemical
combination of oxygen and hydrogen, thus giving a specific meaning to a
term used by Occultists in a generic sense, and which is used in
Cosmogony with a metaphysical and mystical meaning."	. Secret
Doctrine, Vol I, page 64


"Stanza III -- Sloka 2: THE VIBRATION SWEEPS ALONG, TOUCHING WITH ITS
SWIFT WING (SIMULTANEOUSLY) THE WHOLE UNIVERSE, AND THE GERM THAT
DWELLETH IN DARKNESS: THE DARKNESS THAT BREATHES (MOVES) OVER THE
SLUMBERING WATERS OF LIFE. ... The idea of the "breath" of Darkness
moving over "the slumbering Waters of life," which is primordial matter
with the latent Spirit in it, recalls the first chapter of genesis."
-- Secret Doctrine Vol I pages 63-64.


"All this, teaches the hidden Science, is but the temporary reflection,
the shadow of the eternal ideal prototype in Divine Thought; the word
"Eternal," note well again, standing here only in the sense of "Aeon,"
as lasting throughout the seemingly interminable, but still limited
cycle of activity, called by us Manvantara."	Secret Doctrine, Vol
I, page 63



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-----Original Message-----
From: ariela
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 10:21 AM
To: 
Subject: why blavatsky?


If too many people study the Secret Doctine, it wouldn't be "secret"
anymore.

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "arielaretziel" <arielaretziel@y...>
wrote:

> 
> My question is this, if the Wisdom is found everywhere, why propigate
one

 
> version of it? I personally like The Secret Doctrine and someone else
may
like the Necronomicon. We find people with the same interest and
discuss our 
> own things. 


The world can be saved without everyone learning the Secret 
> Doctrine. 
> 
> PR is for salesmen. I have nothing to sell and neither does HPB. 

This Wisdom comes for free. 
>