Theos-Talk Archives (January 2004 Message tt00259)

What I mean to say was: Trishna(tanha) Personal experiences,
Upadana= the bounding on that personal experiencing and 
Bhava = the attachment or devotion to a neverending existence of the 
personally ego.
That are the reasons of this subject.
Greetings Christina












--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@a...> wrote:
> Hallo Christina and all,
> 
> My views are:
> 
> I was answering with my - short version - to the ongoing debate - 
and not
> specifically to you.
> 
> Besides I do not even understand the below remarks.
> Please try to reformulate them.
> 
> 
> from
> M. Sufilight with peace and love...
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@y...>
> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 5:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World death frightens
> 
> 
> > -
> > Hallo Morton, I think,
> > That you don't understand what the three sanscrits means:
> > Because of the Spirit and soul needs the body on this level and we
> > are living in the material World, you cannot deny that.
> > And the ones lived over that see it from another level and 
different.
> > With light and power.
> > Christina
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
> > theosophy@a...> wrote:
> > > Hallo all of you,
> > >
> > > My views are:
> > >
> > > Here is my short version.
> > > You do not realise, that you do not need to be afraid - because 
you
> > are
> > > ignorant.
> > > If you knew and had real wisdom and knowledge - you would
> > understand, that
> > > there was no need of being afraid
> > > of death or anything for that matter.
> > >
> > > Remove your ignorance by seeking out those experiences in your 
life,
> > > which might help you to destroy your problem.
> > >
> > > Some read books. What they call the right ones. And sometimes 
they
> > get lucky
> > > and read a good one among
> > > all those - superficial ones which floods the markets today.
> > >
> > > Some learn from life. Their job, nature, friends and so on. (We 
all
> > do that.
> > > But with just little knowledge - you learn in a different 
manner.)
> > >
> > > Others join a spiritual organisation - of their very own
> > (egoistical)
> > > choosing.
> > > And it is therefore often not the one, which the could benefit 
the
> > most
> > > from.
> > >
> > > Others seek a REAL spiritual Teacher.
> > > But they do not know, that the Teacher finds them - and that 
they
> > do not
> > > find the Teacher - even if they think so.
> > >
> > > ***
> > > Another view is: Faith counts.
> > > Without faith in that life has a deeper and more peaceful 
meaning -
> > there
> > > with often be no concern about removing fear.
> > > With that faith or small amunt of knowledge - one will continue 
to
> > seek a
> > > solution to the problem of fear.
> > >
> > > And true:
> > > Seek and you will find !
> > > Knock and the door shall be open !
> > >
> > > I suggest, that we be patient, calm and intense about it all.
> > > Build on a rock - a solid one, with no weird popes, dogmas, 
strange
> > > conditioning rituals and the like.
> > >
> > >
> > > from
> > > M. Sufilight with peace and love...
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@y...>
> > > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 5:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Theos-World death frightens
> > >
> > >
> > > > Trough Tanha and Upadana and Bhava.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "adelasie" <adelasie@s...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > It's amazing how we all more or less fear death, and yet, 
if we
> > > > > accept reincarnation, we have each died many times, almost 
as
> > many
> > > > as
> > > > > we have been born. Why do we persist in this fear?
> > > > >
> > > > > Adelasie
> > > > >
> > > > > On 16 Jan 2004 at 10:04, krishtar wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The idea of death terrifies me, I wish I was not nearby 
when
> > this
> > > > > > happens to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Krishtar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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