Theos-Talk Archives (October 2003 Message tt00305)

Hi Mauri and all of you,

My views are:

Mauri wrote:
"But thanks for
> the qualifiers, though. Seems I can't make
> enough sense any which way. Either I get
> criticized and/or laughed at about my
> "exessive" qualifiers, or I get corrected and
> qualified if I skip a few qualifiers. What's
> going on out there? ^:-/"

My answer:
What one is doing on one level of consciousness - one is most certainly not
doing in total on another and higher level.
None is laughing at you personally.
I think I can easily say, that all the members here are your friends -
except (maybe) the non-theosophical ones.
Some of the members here seek to teach each other from time to time, and
they do not only speculate. Even if that from time to time is a good idea.
There is more going on, you see.

To speculate is also to assume. When you assume you are not working with
facts, but quite often, you are working with a hypotesis. An hypotesis can
have value if it leads you somewhere, - i.e. somewhere else than where you
were in your consciousness. - That is on a lower level of consciousness and
a lower level of compassion.
If the hypotesis are presented not taking time, place and people into
account - then it might have no spiritual growth-value in it, and it could
be somewhat damaging or timewasting although it quite often are harmless.
It is just like some milk - you drink it only at the right time. A few weeks
later you don't.
I think I learned that when watching "Alien Nation". (smile...)


What is going on ?
As Fox Mulder says: The TRUTH is out there !
Or was it "IN" there - in the Head and the Heart ?



from
M. Sufilight with peae and love...



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mauri" <mhart@idirect.ca>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:43 PM
Subject: Theos-World re Jesus and Theosophy, Leon and "exoteric/esoteric"


> Quoting from recent posts:
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> M>Leon, guys, in case you might be interested,
> >I found this quote in today's post from Dallas:
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> <<"...in common with Pythagoras and other
> >hierophant reformers, Jesus
> >divided his teachings into exoteric and
> esoteric."
> > ISIS II 147>>
> >
> M<<If Jesus divided his teachings into those two
> >categories, then wouldn't that be relevant
> >enough reason for people on these lists to
> >try to find some kind of Theosophic
> >context/meaning for those two
> words/concepts ...>>
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> Leon responded: <<No. It's far more
> important to find out what those fundamental
> teachings are that were given esoterically to
> his disciples and how they differ from those
> superficial exoteric teachings given out to
> the unwashed and illiterate
> multitudes -- rather than hack away at the
> meaning of the words that categorize them. >>
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> That's about what I said, meant to say,
> believe it or not, when I referred to
> "Theosophic context/meaning." But thanks for
> the qualifiers, though. Seems I can't make
> enough sense any which way. Either I get
> criticized and/or laughed at about my
> "exessive" qualifiers, or I get corrected and
> qualified if I skip a few qualifiers. What's
> going on out there? ^:-/
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> <<Theosophists aren't ethnologists or
> philologists. But, they are scientists and
> philosophers and interested in finding out
> the fundamental truths for themselves -- not
> the details behind descriptions of their
> categories.>>
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> How "scientists and philosophers" are defined
> "more specifically" might be a somewhat
> relevant point to make here---and I suspect
> that such defining might benefit from a few
> keyish qualifiers, incidentally, generally
> speaking, and especially in any kind of
> "Theosophic context," I suspect, whether or
> not your "unwashed and illiterate multitudes"
> are addressed or much interested. And if we
> all tend to define "keyish" in our various
> ways, what does that tell people, one might
> wonder ...
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> <<That certainly is a waste of time and
> energy and teaches us nothing -- which you
> have amply demonstrated.
> Best wishes, Leon>>
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> Oh ... Thanks for your comments, Leon.
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> Speculatively,
> Mauri
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