Theos-Talk Archives (October 2003 Message tt00270)

--- krishtar_a <krishtar_a@brturbo.com> wrote:
> My dears 
> I donīt wish to offend anyone but i felt that this
> message was also addressed to me...due to my short
> last comments. 
> I have a humble opinion on that.

Erica: The last message was sent by me, if you took it
personnal what can I do.

> Every human being is a son of god. > Theosophy has
taught us about that in different
> manners. 

Erica: Okay, but personally I don't believe in God...
Let's say every human is coming from the "Eternal
Breath" it's more poetical :)

> But compassion can be done in many different ways
> too. > Sometimes one must suffer to learn a lesson -
be it > a criticism, a censure, 

Erica: Life makes us to face lot's of suffering,
loses,
disappointments etc. Who have the right to judge that
someone has to suffer to learn a lesson? Critics and
censure are normal human reactions. The problem is
when they are made towards things that have no
fundament.

> HPB said " theosophist should gain the wisdom to
> help others effectually, not blindly."

Erica: So do you believe that to be a "rufiano" or
ironic is a way to help others? 

> Those who donīt wish to be helped cannot be helped. 

Erica: 100% agreed

> Gautama Buddha used to say that the path for
> illumination is the self improvement first, it means
> that we cannot help anyone if we donīt help
> ourselves first. 

Erica: Agreed. So may be a way to start helping us, is
to stop to be ironic towards the ones that are weak.

> I think that the true theosophist is not an
> alienated person. When, for example, Jesus Christ,
according to gospel, said to turn the other side of
the face He didnīt mean to act like a fool and accept
every injury or slander.

Erica: Real injury and real offense.

> I think that not even a true theosophist needs to
> accept every word or person for granted, principally
> when lying.

Erica: And who is accepting every word as granted?
Actually this is the only thing you can't find between
students of theosophy. They are all the time within
an "arena" of debates. This is really great!

> We do not grow in spirituality letting others
> prejudicing us. > It is not compassion.

Erica: Who is prejudicing us? Someone that wrote that
is going to dennounce I don't know whom to the FBI?
Don't you know dear that the FBI they have more things
to do than to get worried about the Theosophical seal?
Don't you think in your logic mind that they have more
important things to worry about? There are some online
tests to avaliate how shallow someone might be...
Would like the addresses? 
(As you see to be irony it's not something pleasant)

with love,

Erica Letzerich


> Krishtar
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Erica Letzerich 
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:13 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Morya Est and RADHA
> BURNIER FORGED THE SEAL OF THE THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to share this quote with you...
> 
> "Self-sacrifice is the highest standard of
> Theosophy.
> It is not by studying Occultism for selfish ends,
> for
> the gratification of ones personal ambition,
> pride, or
> vanity, that one can ever reach the true goal --
> that
> of helping suffering humanity. Compassion is the
> Law
> of Laws -- eternal harmony. To feel "Compassion"
> without an adequate practical result is not
> Altruism.
> The first of the Theosophical duties is to do
> one's
> duty by all men. For every flower of love and
> charity
> you plant in your neighbor's garden, a loathsome
> weed
> will disappear from your own. There is no
> happiness
> for one who is ever thinking of self and
> forgetting
> all other selves. The duty -- let alone happiness
> --
> of every Theosophist is certainly to help others
> to
> carry their burden. A Theosophist should gain the
> wisdom to help others effectually, not blindly.
> The
> human heart has not yet fully uttered itself. If
> unable to toil for humanity, work for the few who
> need
> your help. The principle of Brotherhood is one of
> the
> eternal truths that govern the world's progress.
> Step
> out of sunlight into shade to make more room for
> others." H.P.B
> 
> It's easy to turn your back for those that
> disturbes,
> for those that does not say sweet words, or are
> unpleasant. It's easy to criticize or to make fun
> of
> things without having understanding. It's
> difficult to
> cultivate compassion, understanding and patiente,
> such
> qualities are for the real theosophists.
> Unfortunatly
> all the time we have the opportunity to see how
> rare
> they are. 
> Erica Letzerich
> 
> 
> --- krishtar_a <krishtar_a@brturbo.com> wrote:
> > Hi Mauri.
> > If you take a look at internet youīll even find
> > Morya_est - Bhikshuni Arya - in some e-groups
> > accusing someone of something.
> > the first I heard of him as being in FBI was
> > S.S.Baba.
> > Either you take care or youīll be the next...(
> LOL)
> > 
> > Krishtar
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: leonmaurer@aol.com 
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 2:48 AM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World RADHA BURNIER FORGED
> THE
> > SEAL OF THE THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETY:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In a message dated 10/20/03 1:43:47 PM,
> > morya_est@yahoo.co.in writes:
> > 
> > >Legal complain in the FBI against Radha
> Burnier
> > crime, is signed:
> > >Number: I02062014121585.
> > 
> > Why would the FBI be interested? What's the
> > crime? The copyright (if there 
> > ever was one) on the seal of the Theosophical
> > Society ran out over a 100 years 
> > ago. 
> > 
> > 
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