Theos-Talk Archives (October 2003 Message tt00174)

Krishtar:

When we take time to write out our thoughts, it helps us clarify them.
Putting them in concrete form, we bring them into focus and better organize
them. In sharing with others, we often get new insights.


__________Hi, Eldon and all.
I agree with you, when we write we think better about our ideas, organizing them.It is a way of getting insights.
I am not against writing, or I wouldīnt be in a discussion list. But I expressed my discordance towards the excess of especulating, sometimes the subject is so interesting, clear, and all a member receives is a collectionof "maybes" and quotation marks and leaving the main subject out of focus.
For example, your considerations are very constructive and a little poetical and I learned something out of it.
I liked the " Consider other people on the list as volunteer teachers that grade your writing and give you
immediate feedback", thet is why I am on it.
It is very nice.
But I insist that, like pupils, we can sometimes disagree and express it.
The wrongest way is to lose respect for the other and act in anger.
In the first message to this group I talked about respect and I indeed respect Mauriīs way of especulating, 
All I expressed is that I found it excessive, living the central idea outof focus with so much wandering. Yes?
Best regards

Krishtar

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If some writing is confused, rambling, or disorganized, it means that the
writer in still struggling to bring clarity to his or her understanding of
the subject. We all find ourselves in this position at times. 

Clear writing in fiction takes you into the story. The writing becomes
transparent as the story shines brilliantly in your mind's eye. Excellence
in writing on philosophical themes acts similarly. The words take you
swiftly to deep places within where you gaze upon eternal truths. High
quality poetry or art draw you into a particular emotion or state of mind
powerfully, intensely, and with passion.

Poor writing in fiction leaves you struggling to figure out what the story
is about and making an effort to keep plodding through the book. Poor
metaphysical writing leaves you puzzled over just what the author is trying
to say, if anything. Baldy written poems do not strongly grip you, but leave
you cold, wondering if the drunken songs coming from yonder tavern have more
sense and meaning.

In all cases, words can convey brilliance, a numinous quality, a sense of
magic and wonder and majesty -- or they can leave you cold. Just as fine
music can come out of stereo speakers, or crackles, pops, and static hiss.
Both are sound, but one conveys meaning that is absent from the other.

When writing, we are sharing something more that just the words. How wellwe
share depends upon how well we craft our writing. Whether the words are
beneficial or harmful depends upon our feelings, state of mind, and inner
state when we sit down to write. (That is why it is not a good idea to
respond in immediate anger to something we may see that we find offensive.)

What does this all mean on a mailing list? When writing, treat it as an
opportunity to see things clearly, like in meditation, approaching the
actual act of writing as one would work on a Zen koan. Consider other people
on the list as volunteer teachers that grade your writing and give you
immediate feedback. They act as a sounding board to your ideas and
self-expression. They are not there as children to be educated nor sheep to
be looked over and protected from the wolves.

Look at an idea as clearly as possible. Start without words, then taking the
dive into writing, racing to capture rapidly the elusive insight. Stop when
the excitement dies down and the words turn cold. Wrap it up, review it for
obvious errors, and then make the posting. Perhaps no one will say a word
about it. Someone may say that he or she likes what you say. Someone else
may call it total nonsense and garbage. No matter. You know that it is good
the whole time you work working on the posting. When it goes out, there is a
sense of completion and closure and readiness for something new. You have
given birth to something that has gone out into the world, and now it is
time to move on.

-- Eldon


-----Original Message-----
From: krishtar_a [mailto:krishtar_a@brturbo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:04 AM
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Theos-World specutively criticising

Hi Mauri and others

As i havenīt had spare time to write to tHe group, i keep reading...
I donīt know if I am getting dull or something but I find Mauriīs
considerations too confusing.
Isīnt it too much racionality? I gess so.
This way of writing so speculatively sometimes seems reflects the way in
which you think and I feel that it is too much racional.
Shouldīnt we use our intuition as often as ? which potencially increases our
egoīs access to a more natural action towards our Buddhic body - to catch
an easier and inner meaning of things?
At least the rosicrucians say so.
My question is, what good is to analize every word and its two or threefold
meanings? Full of inverted commas, comparisons, and so on. 
How does such a enquiring mind behave during a meditation, for example?Can
it hear the voice of Nada?

Krishtar


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