Theos-Talk Archives (October 2003 Message tt00105)

Oct 9 2003
 
Dear Jerome:
 
Re: IMMORTALITY AND ETERNITY ?
 
1 HPB Article III p. 264-6 she definitely states that “spirits”
or units, have and must preserve their divine (not human)
individualities.”
 
2 is the mystery of the “drop” in the “ocean”.
 
3 “E’en wasted smoke remains not traceless.” Voice.
 
4 The cue is (to me) that Karma remains attached to those
Skandhas that survive the gap of “time” however large (when you go to
sleep do you keep time? – do Karma and energy stop?) .  
 
5 And they (skandhas) are eternal Monads also – so they do. 
 
6 Also, rationally, why would everything come to a crashing
stop after so much effort?
 
Why the problem at all? Is it our petty human small sense of time and
space?
 
Dal
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jerome Wheeler [mailto:ultinla@juno.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:55 PM
To: study@blavatsky.net
Cc: study@blavatsky.net
Subject: [bn-study] The Quaternary & what about the EGO
 
 
Even today there is much discussion whether the Higher Ego is absorbed
or not in Pralaya. Here is an interesting discussion in one of HPB's
early articles where she tackles the point head-on:
 
May we be allowed a comparison, the best we can find, between the
concrete and the abstract; between what our critic calls “the triple
hypostasis” and we “the tetraktys”? Let us compare this philosophic
quaternary, composed of the body, the périsprit, the soul and the
spirit—to the ether—so well foreseen by science, but never defined—and
its subsequent correlations. The ether will represent the spirit for
us; the dead vapor that is formed therein—the soul; water—the périsprit;
ice—the body. The ice melts and for ever loses its shape, water
evaporates and is dispersed in space; the vapor is liberated from its
grosser particles and finally reaches that condition in which science
cannot follow it. Purified from its last defilements, it is entirely
absorbed into its first cause, and becomes a cause in its turn. With
the exception of the immortal nous—the soul, the périsprit and the body,
all having been created and having had a beginning, must all have an
end.
 
 
WHERE IS THIS TAKEN FROM ? Dal 
 
 
Does that mean that the individuality is lost in that absorption? Not
at all. But between the human Ego and the wholly divine Ego, there is
an abyss that our critics fill in without knowing it. (from: "Erroneous
Ideas Concerning the Doctrines of the Theosophists.")
 
 
 
WHAT IS THE ACTUAL LOCATION OF THIS ?   
Blavatsky: COLLECTED WORKS ?
 
 
 
 
This is the article that one of the Mahatma letters points to as a
scholarly defense of theosophy as being congruent with Plato, Paul, and
other ancient philosophers.
 
Jerome
 
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p.s. There is another comment which leaves me dumbfounded!! It shows up
on page 148 of Transactions:
 
 
....the Day of Judgment; in the East it was called the Day after
Mahamanvantara, or the "Day-Be-With-Us." Then everything becomes one,
all individualities are merged into one, yet each knowing itself, a
mysterious teaching indeed. But then, that which to us now is
non-consciousness or the unconscious, will then be absolute
consciousness.
 
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