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Re: Re: re "free will" and "transcending karma,"Leon, and ...

Aug 03, 2003 07:48 AM
by Nisk98114


 I think i was looking at that with my "middle" brain. :O)

Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 05:20:32 EDT
From: leonmaurer@aol.com

I wonder what makes you think Mauri wrote that? Funny how things get 
scrambled up when they are taken out of context. Maybe you should re read (as in 
reed) the entire correspondence, including the quotes. Thanks for the kudos, 
anyway. ;o) 

In a message dated 08/01/03 1:24:52 PM, Nisk98114@aol.com writes:

I actually read(as in red) all that you wrote.Let's have some more of that 
Mauri. LOL :O) 
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Mauri, 
Uh... Thanks for your explanation. I think I got what you were speculating 
about. Although, I'm not too sure -- since I have a hard time dealing with 
duality's such as esoteric-exoteric, light-dark, up-down, in-out, or words 
with 
different meanings linked with brackets, etc. 

Actually, I'm mostly a right brained thinker (although I use my left brain to 


write such thoughts down) and see most things in both linear and non linear 
terms of multidimensional or multilayered pictures or images (actually, from 
three [or more] opposing points of view rather than two as most people do). 
Obviously, the triangles being the first forms or things start with 
trinities, 
then transform to quaternaries, and finally add up as sevenfold -- rather

than 
as duality's. For example, I can't think of up and down, or in and out,

etc., 
without adding "in-between" or "in the middle"... Nor, can I see dark or

light 
without imagining another state of vision which is neither dark nor light. 
Also, I see the universe as being both empty and full, as well as every

degree 
of some-things in between -- all interconnected by rigorous laws of inertia 
or 
inaction, motion or action, and harmony or balance. In addition, I can't

imagine esoteric or exoteric teachings or truths without considering 
unexplainable learning's or intuitive truths. 

So, you see, I have a hard time dealing with people who speculate between one 


thing and another, or see things as either black or white. In fact, I guess 
you could say that my seeming "multiplicity" comes from my using a sort
of 
fuzzy logic in everything I think about or do. This sort of logical thinking 


depends on seeing things that are apparenty separate or opposite as 
inherently 
connected. Since, duality's cannot stand alone -- whenever discussions get 
down 
to considering or speculating about opposites, or take opposite sides on
a 
particular question, I see the "in-betweens" (in all their different 
shadings) as 
the only true reality (that needs no speculation about to understand).
For 
example. It's an absolute fact that the first "real" number, or geometric

form, 
had to be 3 -- since, when the universe was 1 or 2, it could have no form. 
And, those two numbers (like zero and infinity) are not essentially real as 
things in themselves. That is, they do not exist until the 3 or triple form 
(either triangle or spherical) appears all at once.

Thus, speculating (about theosophical ideas) in dualistic or monistic terms, 
has no real meaning for me -- since the fundamental monad or first "being" 
had 
to be triune in nature... As would every being or form subsequently. And, 
every theosophical truth can be tested against, and must be consistent with 
the 
three fundamental principles. Thus, in my language, there are no ifs, ands 
or 
buts (with or without quotes :-)... But, there are, either, or, and another. 


(Although, neither are speculative -- since they either are, or they are not 
-- or they are neither.) I hope this clears everything up for you.

Non speculatively (for the moment),


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