Re: re "free will" and "transcending karma,"Leon, and ...
Aug 01, 2003 10:23 AM
by Nisk98114
I actually read(as in red) all that you wrote.Let's have some more of that
Mauri. LOL :O)
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Mauri,
Uh... Thanks for your explanation. I think I got what you were speculating
about. Although, I'm not too sure -- since I have a hard time dealing with
duality's such as esoteric-exoteric, light-dark, up-down, in-out, or words
with
different meanings linked with brackets, etc.
Actually, I'm mostly a right brained thinker (although I use my left brain to
write such thoughts down) and see most things in both linear and non linear
terms of multidimensional or multilayered pictures or images (actually, from
three [or more] opposing points of view rather than two as most people do).
Obviously, the triangles being the first forms or things start with
trinities,
then transform to quaternaries, and finally add up as sevenfold -- rather
than
as duality's. For example, I can't think of up and down, or in and out,
etc.,
without adding "in-between" or "in the middle"... Nor, can I see dark or
light
without imagining another state of vision which is neither dark nor light.
Also, I see the universe as being both empty and full, as well as every
degree
of some-things in between -- all interconnected by rigorous laws of inertia
or
inaction, motion or action, and harmony or balance. In addition, I can't
imagine esoteric or exoteric teachings or truths without considering
unexplainable learning's or intuitive truths.
So, you see, I have a hard time dealing with people who speculate between one
thing and another, or see things as either black or white. In fact, I guess
you could say that my seeming "multiplicity" comes from my using a sort of
fuzzy logic in everything I think about or do. This sort of logical thinking
depends on seeing things that are apparenty separate or opposite as
inherently
connected. Since, duality's cannot stand alone -- whenever discussions get
down
to considering or speculating about opposites, or take opposite sides on a
particular question, I see the "in-betweens" (in all their different
shadings) as
the only true reality (that needs no speculation about to understand). For
example. It's an absolute fact that the first "real" number, or geometric
form,
had to be 3 -- since, when the universe was 1 or 2, it could have no form.
And, those two numbers (like zero and infinity) are not essentially real as
things in themselves. That is, they do not exist until the 3 or triple form
(either triangle or spherical) appears all at once.
Thus, speculating (about theosophical ideas) in dualistic or monistic terms,
has no real meaning for me -- since the fundamental monad or first "being"
had
to be triune in nature... As would every being or form subsequently. And,
every theosophical truth can be tested against, and must be consistent with
the
three fundamental principles. Thus, in my language, there are no ifs, ands
or
buts (with or without quotes :-)... But, there are, either, or, and another.
(Although, neither are speculative -- since they either are, or they are not
-- or they are neither.) I hope this clears everything up for you.
Non speculatively (for the moment),
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