Theos-Talk Archives (June 2003 Message tt00311)

Hi Katinka and all of you,

My views are only views:

Thanks for your kind answer.
Yes unmoderated, - but only for the time being - right ?
Tears are sort of rolling down my face while writing this. >:-)
I think I know, what I am doing.

And my relation to Bart, or at least one relation, - is - that Bart
has to learn
stop being - so - rude.
Bart has his mission and agenda. Much will be revealed about that
if one reads most of Barts emails made here at Theos-Talk.
Try for instance this:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/11374
and http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/11412 .
Bart was at least then considering the Bhagavad Gita as being important.

My method was maybe not the best. But I
definitely acheived something.
Barts reasons for responding to those now almost 'old'
emails was most likely motivated by more than that.
Ie. Barts agenda.

But let us remember, that all of these words are only my views.

And Bart...Bart if you read this:
I suggest, that you just continue reading The Bhagavad Gita,
that cannot be bad.
I do care - and the Bhagavad Gita do too. Happy smiles. >:-)
But does Bart care ?

Sometimes Seekers or Theosophists changes and improves...

Katinka it is not so much, what I am writing, but what
reaction it has to the readers - and receivers of the emails
I make. The same goes for other emails made by others.
I have said it before. - I know, that I can not die.
I have known that for more than 20 years now.

People email a lot. It can almost be called a new fashion.
Sometimes I listen to music. Sometimes I walk in nature.
I do not email all the time. Others do the same...

We will all meet one day on one level or the other...
and not only by emailing...
I know. Others do'nt.
ParaBrahman for instance knows everything - people in the
land of the fools often do'nt.
Some are pretenders - and with good reason.
Sometimes with a not so good reason.

I do care...as much as I am able...

Feel free to comment or do your best...


from
M. Sufilight peace and love...



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Katinka Hesselink" <mail@katinkahesselink.net>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 4:01 PM
Subject: Theos-World as bad as Bart put it ???


> Hi Morton,
>
> This list is an unmoderated one. We have had one person here (who
> shall remain nameless) defend Hitler, and not be expelled. So,
> however much your style of writing may anoy a few of us here, you
> certainly won't be expelled. As usual in occultism: you will have to
> be your own judge and lawgiver. Find out for yourself whether Bart is
> right and if he is, change your ways. (not suggesting that would be
> easy). If he isn't right, ignore him. The only reason he keeps
> responding to you, is that you keep responding to him.
>
> Katinka
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
> theosophy@a...> wrote:
> > Hi Bart and all of you,
> >
> >
> > To all readers I will have to ask the moderator on this list if am
> that bad
> > as Bart put it.
> > Because, then I should'nt be on this List should I ? Or should I ?
> > Even Wry are up and running - but with a different angle to it.
> >
> >
> > You, Bart tell me in the below, that I am a Troll.
> >
> > And you insinuate the following:
> > "If you wish to set yourself up as "THE
> > > GREAT GURU, THE MASTER OF LIGHT OF SUFI, WHO MUST BE OBEYED IN
> EVERY
> > > PARTICULAR", feel free to do so."
> >
> > Another person at Theos-Talk has a different angle, but seem to
> agree a lot
> > with you Bart:
> > Wry recently told me, that I was a Cocoon.
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/12383
> > Wry also have said that :
> > "Some so-called "sufi" has messed you up."
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/12340
> >
> >
> > So maybe Wry and Bart should discuss with each other wheather I am
> a Cocoon
> > or a Troll,
> > because to me there is a big biodiversity gap between the two
> opinions.
> > But maybe some trolls do cocoon, - anyone ?
> > I offer you a big smile. >:-)
> >
> >
> > I have to run....I am late to a meeting. See you all.
> >
> > from
> > M. Sufilight with peace and love...
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Bart Lidofsky" <bartl@s...>
> > To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 1:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Recruitment and education...
> >
> >
> > > Morten Nymann Olesen wrote:
> > > > My views:
> > > > This debate is terminated by me for the time being.
> > > > This happens because Bart continously have refused to answer
> > > > the questions, which I have been giving him in a number of
> previous
> > emails.
> > >
> > > I will assume that your problem is that you have trouble with the
> > > English language. You ask me to justify statements I did not
> make, and I
> > > try to tell you what I actually did say. As far as I'm concerned,
> I have
> > > no need to justify statements that I have not made, nor positions
> that I
> > > have not taken.
> > >
> > > I have stated that your messages give the appearance of a great
> deal of
> > > arrogance and egotism. I stand by that statement. You have stated
> that
> > > this was unintended. I choose to believe you, but still recommend
> that
> > > you stop using language that says otherwise. In addition, writing
> > > messages which are designed to mislead your audience, even to
> make a
> > > point that you can't believe anything that you read, marks you as
> a troll.
> > >
> > > We are here to discuss Theosophy. If you wish to set yourself up
> as "THE
> > > GREAT GURU, THE MASTER OF LIGHT OF SUFI, WHO MUST BE OBEYED IN
> EVERY
> > > PARTICULAR", feel free to do so. But don't be surprised if you
> generate
> > > hostility.
> > >
> > > Bart
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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