Theos-Talk Archives (June 2003 Message tt00307)

Hi Bill. I have just answered your question , and I think you will find my
answer interesting, but, after much consideration, I have decided that this
is not the right time to delve into certain specifics re the study of word
roots on this list, as, though the atmosphere has improved remarkably, the
situation is still chaotic. Therefore, I have emailed my answer to you
privately and may publish it out here at some time in the future. Because I
have been removed from the Blavatsky study group, I do not wish to see my
material posted by people like Dallas or Leon or Leon masquerading as "Herm"
and others like him on that or other forums.

For any of the people on here who are interested in this subject, if you are
meant to uncover the so called "language of the ancients," you will do so,
but only by your own efforts, as this material will be spoon-fed to no one.
After the membership of this list goes over two hundred , I will put out a
bibliography and make a few suggestions, and, of course, at any time, I
might sneak something or other into my messages, and may make a few general
comments, such as what is to follow.

The word, "cock" as mentioned by Bart is very interesting in that if it is
pronounced backwards it sounds the same. Any such anomaly is always worth
examining. An interesting way to start pondering word roots, as I have
mentioned previously, is to ponder the shapes of the letters and the
numbers, and, actually, in the word, "cock," you will find an allusion to a
number. It is also interesting to note that the letter "c" does not usually
come at the end of a word, but rather a "k," (and it is also very worth
noting when two letters sometimes have the same sound, such as "k" and "c"
or "s" and "c." The letter "k" is very interesting to figure out, though I
am not sure the best entrance to a beginning study of word roots.

I do not remember if I have mentioned this in the past, but the first word I
became interested in the inner meaning of and actually researched, was the
word, "camel" because of two intriguing saying, "Tether your camel and then
seek God," and also, another very famous one about the eye of a needle, from
the New Testament. Later, when I began to read "Beelzebub's Tales to His
Grandson" for the third time, and other books by Gurdjieff, I began to
decipher some of the words he put together from word roots. This was a most
extraordinary study as he not only trains you to understand how words are
put together, but he also conveys information in many different ways through
this device, and there are also general themes or threads running though
these words, which convey a certain meaning by linking certain concepts
together. (One thing I forgot to mention to you Bill, which just now occurs
to me, is that when there is more than one syllable, I also look at each
syllable individually, and I sometimes even look at just two letters of a
three in a syllable or single word in this way, such as in link, ln and nk).
The important thing is to find the word that is interesting to oneself and
continue going where the curiously is alive. If you do read Gurdjieff's
books, it is important to read them in sequence, and as he says, read the
first one three times. If you start deciphering the words in the beginning,
you may miss something else and then it will be too late, as there is no way
to go back. I have also done many nursery rhymes from Mother Goose, and this
is a most rewarding, even thrilling study. I do not recall if I have written
about this on here. Maybe sometime I will leave a message on this subject,
as, actually, Mother Goose would probably be appropriate material for a
bunch of budding theosophists.

To finish, while glancing below, another device occurs to me, Bill, in that
I sometimes will take the last part of a word, such as "od" in God or "og"
in dog and place other consonants before it. In this way one can get a
better sense of the meaning of individual consonants. A final comment, if
you are looking for something very specific in a language, in the sense of
an exact formulaic principle that can be applied every single time, you
will never find it, as there are too many discrepancies to be taken into
account, but if you want to uncover certain exact and specific information
about certain universal principles re the functioning of a human body in
relationship to the cosmos, this it is there, and, in my opinion, this
study of words and the application of your subsequent understanding to
certain spiritual texts, combined with doing the exercise of impartial
self-observation for a few years, will put anyone well on the track to
discovering the true and very specific knowledge of the ancients, and making
subsequent application of this knowledge, as a conscious human being in full
relationship with others rather than a mechanical thought complex holding
onto life backwards (evil) by clinging to material rather than being fully
aliVe. Sincerely, Wry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bart Lidofsky" <bartl@sprynet.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Who is Leon?


> Bill Meredith wrote:
> > Hi Wry. You spoke briefly of the consonant base for words. Have you
had
> > any experience with word reversals and any occult meaning that might be
> > associated with them? For example: live = evil; dog = god; noel =
leon.
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> I once had to edit an Allen Ginsberg reading for air on the radio. On
> discussion, it was decided that, in order to keep the rhythm proper, we
> would take the obscenities, and put the tape back in upside-down (so
> that the words would come out in reverse). Worked fine. That is, until
> we found out that "cock", backwards, is "cock".
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> Bart
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