Theos-Talk Archives (June 2003 Message tt00270)

Well, at least your sense of humor is still intact. It finally puts the cap 
on all these senseless conversations between all those people mentioned. As 
for me, you don't have to worry. I'm getting too busy with some really 
important theosophical work to take the time to read all the nonsense that's been 
floating around here lately (except maybe for a few gems from guys like Dallas). 
People picking on people is no way to discuss theosophy -- or any other 
matter for that matter. From here on out, it's your show. Or wry's, if she gets 
her 200 disciples online here -- which I seriously doubt judging by the quality 
of the primative ideas bandied around as if that's all there is to theosophy. 
(Making jokes is another matter altogether, and if there was more of that 
maybe I'd stick around for awhile.:-)

LHM (The man from inner space) 

In a message dated 06/26/03 9:46:34 PM, bill_meredith@earthlink.net writes:

>As a True Theosophist I speak the Truth. Listen to me Leonardo Hermes
>Maurer. You are interfering with the developmental learning curve of Morten
>as he sheds his cocoon with the help of Bart and to a lessor extent Wry.
>Stop Immediately. Consider yourself warned!
>Meredith (man from the sea)


----- Original Message -----

From: <leonmaurer@aol.com>

To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 1:09 AM

Subject: Re: Theos-World Recruitment and education...



>

> In a message dated 06/25/03 3:16:53 PM, bartl@sprynet.com writes:

>

> >In your case, the terminology you are using, regardless of your real

> >opinions, makes you appear haughty and egotistical. Yes, H. P. Blavatsky

> >used similar language sometimes, but the occasions were few and far

> >between, and, to a certain extent, she had the right to say them,

> >because she was starting the movement. And, to a certain extent, she

> >turned off a lot of potential students by using them, as well.

>

> Getting tired of this futile personality nonsense. This is simply your

own

> perceptions. And what hang ups you have that precipitate them are strictly

in

> your own mind. As for the rest of us, we can make our own decisions as to

what

> is "haughty and egotistical" and what is not. (And, in any cases, what

> difference would that make as to the validity of what we hear or read?)

Frankly I

> think your perceptions are, to say the least, full of crap. Most of us

"true

> (vid: "honest") theosophists" read what people say and interpret the

meanings

> for ourselves based on our own ideas and perceptions and what theosophical

> knowledge we have learned... And generally, I would assume, don't (or at

least

> try not to) apply personal prejudices in making our judgments as to the

validity

> of the statements made or quotations given. Besides, what gives you the

> chutzpah to say what right anyone else has to say what they need to say in

any way

> they want to or can say it? If you are one of the students HPB "turned

off"

> for using the forms of language she chose, why are you here discussing her

> work? And what has starting a movement got do with any rights HPB had to

speak

> her truth in any way she needed to or was capable of? Now I know why ULT

and

> the Theosophy Company requests that any public speakers or writers on

> theosophical ideas remain anonymous. It's to keep judgmental people like

you from

> making presumptions about, or "turning off" what they say based on

personality

> factors. On the other hand, if you are a long time theosophist, haven't

you

> understood yet that HPB said much more between her lines than she said

within

> them? The last three keys are as obvious in HPB's writing to the

"intuitive

> student," as well as to an "Adept," as if she had written them in stone.

She

> telegraphed this in so many places in her writings that it would be

pointless to

> point them out... Especially to those who are only capable of skimming the

> surface of esoteric or occult realities. So, maybe it's about time we all

woke up

> and smelled the coffee before spouting our inconsequential and ad hominem

> comments about other people's ideas and perceptions -- about ALL aspects

of "true

> theosophy" (which we can either know intuitively, or not -- depending on

our

> "readiness" to learn as well as our level of "self realization"). So,

where

> are you pontificating from with your inconsequential and time and energy

> wasting personality projections?

>

> LHM

>