Theos-Talk Archives (May 2003 Message tt00280)

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From: "Bill Meredith" <bill_meredith@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: [bn-study] RE: REINCARNATION SUPPORTED -- Ocean
Ch. .10


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> From: "wry" <wry1111@earthlink.net>
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> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 9:45 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: [bn-study] RE: REINCARNATION SUPPORTED --
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> Ch. .10
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> > Hi Everyone. Where I come from, everyone is an idiot. Again, I hope I am
> > a -- unique idiot--.
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> What do you think is the source for one's hoping to be unique?

Wry: Well, I was drinking armanac from a great big HUGE water tumbler when I
said that. But if there is something to be seen about onself when one is
making a certain message, it would need to recorded in present time as
interconnected to everything else that is going on, or it does just become
ordinary thought (analysis), which is a function of the conditioned mind and
not of pure attention.

>I wonder
> just how unique theosophy's individual monad can really be? Any comments
> will be appreciated from one idiot to another.

Wry: Well, in my opinion, we all are idiots in that we think we are God or
the center of everything and fantasy that we function with certain qualities
of individuality which we do not have, when, in actuality, as long as we
maintain this fantasy, there is no possibility to develop these
qualities.Someone who does not maintain this fantasy is already a little bit
unique. Maybe a conscious person would know how to wish, for example, but
this is different from the quality of wish a person makes when he blows out
the candles on his birthday cake. A person is born with certain genetic
propensities, and around this, due to external circumstances the personality
is formed. The personality is not just a bunch of mannerisms, but a tightly
locked box which is a defense structure against unbearable pain, and it will
NOT naturally undue itself, it being its nature not to. Anyone who can help
me undue this in such a way that I am free from my pain and able to freely
express myself is not only my friend, however much my personality may not
like him, but already unique. In order to do this, he might need to set up
circumstances in a certain way that are even theatrical. At such a
production, people are more likely to pay attention, especially if one or
more of the participants is consciously playing his personality as if it is
a puppet on strings.

Re your question, a person will have to find out for himself, what it would
mean to be purified of mechanical habit patterns, and if it is unique or
not, and what that kind of uniqueness means, In this sense, I would strive
to be unique. Some people might say that to strive in this way decreases the
chance of ever becoming free, as it wastes even more energy, but I would say
it depends on how strictly and cleverly the specific conditions of this
striving are set up, and how pure the motivation of this person. There are
different essence types that are genetic, but I do not believe this to be an
important topic to focus upon. The aim , in terms of developing true
individuality, is to take certain material that is ordinarily dispersed and
wasted (by ones reactions to life) and to conserve it in such a way that it
moves up to the brain. There is where sensing a certain spot between the
eyes or doing a breath exercise becomes highly problematic. In order to use
material in a certain way, one needs to start from the outside and move
inside, so to speak, and maybe, also, from the inside and move outside.
There are two currents. But if I start from a thought in my head that is
based on a movement away from ever fully assimilating certain experience, it
is all skewed, It doesn't matter WHAT I think, no matter how noble, as it
is all mechanical. This is why a great world teacher will have to see
himself having an image of himself as a great world teacher before actually
becoming a great world teacher (and this is what Krishnamurti did, to be
exact). You would not think having one image (such as of oneself being
immortal, perhaps) would throw everything off, but it does because
everything else that a person says and does is interconnected and hinged to
it,. Certain material processes are very subtle. When one subtely is
connected to one coarsity, the whole subtlty is no longer subtle. Perhaps
this is one meaning of separating the wheat from the chaff. It is very
interesting that one nickname for the Sufi is the "wearer of the wool." The
Sufi does not just wear wool. He knows he is wearing it.

Most of us assume we have a certain individuality, but it is not the same as
consciously wearing wool. When the wool is worn conscioously, material of a
more subtle density can assume the form of a human being. I do not think an
individual monad can be very unique, but to be an individual and to have a
real I rather than a lot of fragmented I's would be very unique, if not
indeed extraordinarily rare. Bear in mind that we are talking about
interconnected and combined materialities, and all this is happening at one
moment, in one room, at one supper or party, where there are, say, eight
number of participants but only seven pieces of cake. Idiots is a
clafification of this. The person who knows he is an idiot can pretend to be
one. In this way he can be sure to get cake, as all the other idiots will be
distracted by pretending not to be one. Bear in mind, no goes goes to a
dinner partyt in order not to eat dinner. This is why I have attempted to
digest what Maynard has said according to a certain angle. Now, in order to
be true to the tone and quality of my message, and not to be an ordinary
"noble" idiot, I need to know I am an idiot all day, and in this way I am
sure to get a certain food which will enable me to not only to continue to
survive as an idiot but maybe even to develop into a truly "unique idiot."
Sincerely, Wry




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