Theos-Talk Archives (May 2003 Message tt00112)

Hi Frank and all of you,

I am entering the debate a little.

I was struck by surprise, when you mentioned,
that Adyar was supporting the war on Iraq.
Are you able to document that remark ?

All the following are views:

Maybe what Caldwell is up to, is to make you understand,
what Dallas just put out in his latest email:
"The one caution I would interject -- one has to KNOW what
Theosophy teaches -- or else one is not competent enough to
discuss it. Many fall into this kind of trap -- they know only a
superficial smattering of Theosophy. But even so, this does not
prevent one from asking questions, or of offering to others what
they have gleaned about it."

So you see Frank, you are maybe NOT - competent enough - to discuss
Theosophy. I.e. you are simply to ignorant.
Laughs. >:-)

I wonder who will be comptent enough. Only 'scholars' of a special kind of
bread ?
Maybe those who did take those special incarnations back then in past India
on scholastics or what ?

I wonder though if all the involved parties at Adyar are Black Magicians.
I think, it only can be a few of them. The others are - some of them - their
puppets,
following even with the BEST of intentions the ideas coming
from the worst of them. Often the leaders are the ones who get blamed,
so maybe they are the worst. Or what do you think ?
But, the high initiate (HPB) who visits them from time to time, is this the
one
who leads them astray ?

NB: I deleted some of the question marks. I think 3 is enough.
No need to get emotional on that I hope.


Feel absolutely free to comment or do your best...


from
M. Sufilight with huge smile...




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Reitemeyer" <dhyana@web.de>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World To Frank: Black Magicians????????????????????????


> Daniel:
> Frank, I am appalled by your comment. Your comment is offensive in
> the extreme.
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> Frank:
> I could credit some of your emails with the same compliments...
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> Daniel:
> How do you KNOW that they are "black magicians"???
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> Frank:
> Perhaps the same way that you do NOT Know who where they are?
> As I already wrote I judge from the deeds.
> A tree is known by its fruits.
> How do you know they are "white magicians"?
> What is your rationale for it?
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> Daniel:
> Are you willing to admit that possibly you are mistaken in this view?
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> Frank:
> FBI officer, before I admit anything to you, are you willing to admit that
possibly you are not the almighty all-knower?
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> Daniel:
> Please EXPLAIN why you have labelled them as such.
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> Frank:
> You show the same way of thinking as Muehlegger and Johnson.
> This way of thinking is never that of HPB or the Aryan one.
> Eldon's two decisions to ban her from this list was correct and in
accordance with occult law.
> And I have no lust to go into your trap of rhethoric words play.
> Nothing what I could explain would convince you.
> You demand for explanation.
> In turn I demand for someone who is READY TO UNDERSTAND.
> Perhaps you should read how HPB.: defines the term black magician.
> My use of this term is similar.
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> I am really surprized that a long-time Blavatsky-student as you seems to
be ignorant of black magicians.
> Or is your study limited to brain-minded thinking only?
> Read the theos-talk emails between Muehlegger and me.
> Either you KNOW it for yourself - then no ones needs to explain it to you.
> Or you know it NOT for yourself - then you will not understand any
explanation.
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> Daniel:
> I append BELOW the email I posted some time back on Theos-Talk. I'm
> sure you will ignore my comments as given below but one can always
> hope that you might reconsider your offensive remarks and apologize
> for them.
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> Frank:
> Is the US so much descended into black magic now that you really think I
apologize for speaking the truth in a theosophical list?
> Your demand means in plain words that I should leave the theosophical duty
of Brotherhood.
> A strange demand for someone who runs as a Blavatsky expert (despite the
fact that some entries on your homepage show the same
> "spirit" of transcendental materialism as of your buddies).
> I never apologize that I defend the truth about and of HPB and denounce
her persecutors with their twisted pseudo-logic.
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> I only apologize that it took so long for my answer as I have not enough
time to read everyday such a bulk of emails.
> And I apologize for my bad English.
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> BTW, Daniel, since your have several times critiziced alterations in HPB
book from ULT and others and now - from a review from FOHAT magazine - it
turns out that there are hidden alterations in your own book "The Esoteric
World of Madame Blavatsky" will you APOLOGIZE for that?
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> And now where it turns out that the German edition of this your book will
be printed by Dr. Peter Michel's Aquamarin Publ. and as it is well known
that he prints books making Leadbeater the biggest Theosophist, a pupil of
HPB (!!!) who allegedly dedicated her VOS to him (!!) and that Febr, 17th
1847 is still his correct birth date - connected with an "occult mystery"
(which?) and also he spreads a twisted, misleading if not faked
pseudo-edition of HPB's SD, will you publicly APOLOGIZE for being buddy of
such people who are also BLACK MAGICIANS?
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> This actions of yours (as a few examples, more could be given), my dear
theosophical policeman, is something what offends me in the extreme.
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> And before I forget: Your pseudo-occult superiors ex GS and now Int. Vice
Pres. John Algeo and your Int. Pres. Radha Burnier are black magicians,
too - because of all their tries to wreck down Theosophy, among that for
example that they try do undermine the publication of the 600 Blavatsky
letters.
> Do you apologize for being a member of such an organization?
> Or does this TRUTH offend you, too?
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> Superfluous to describe my motives.
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> PS: When ten years ago I started contacts to American theosophists for
information and documents exchange I was shouted out by more than one older
German theosophist that in doing this I would turn a Black Magician as
everybody knows how evil the Americans are and what this aggressors out of
the hell have do with your country, culture, books, language, economy,
schools, universities, not to forget the mass raping and senseless mass
slaughter up to three years after 1945.
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