Theos-Talk Archives (May 2003 Message tt00003)

Dallas, when I wrote: <<Why do we have Yoga's, 
meditations, "just being"?>> that was meant in a 
contextual sense of: "why else do we have Yoga's, 
meditations, "just being,"
don't understand this.

Dallas, you responded with: <<To me meditation is 
concentrated thought on a selected subject.
Nothing else.>>

To me, "meditation/just being" is about transcending 
conventional (dualistic/multiplisitc, exoteric) notions 
about "concentrated thought." "Selected subject" re 
"just being" seems , as I tend to see it, kind of 
pointless, comparatively speaking. I'm hoping my 
quotes on "meditation/just being" were enough to 
suggest that some things can only be experienced 
(apparently).

In my younger days I did a form of "concentrated 
thought" on a spot, with the result that the right side of 
my brain (I think it was the right side ...) felt as if it 
was churning, afterward. So I had to give up that kind 
of meditation. With "just being," though, I haven't 
had any such problems. Not that my sessions have 
been praticularly profound, but/"but" ... We all have 
to start somewhere, eh ... 

<<What are the things we are sure of? You can't build an 
"EMPIRE STATE BUILDING" on the sands of the
shore, you have to have solid rock. To speculate is 
fine. But your rock in that case is yourself -- the "I" 
inside which you assume to be consistent and 
permanent regardless of the states it is in, or observes, 
or passes through. Am I right ? If everything is cloudy, 
and insecure, variable and in constant flux, then how 
can ideas or words (used to define experiences) be ever 
useful -- they would change in meaning and value 
every moment as the mind passes from subject to 
subject, object, or from question, to speculation as to 
event or its values. Are you content with bouncing 
with the fleecy clouds of imagination or are you 
seeking some base that an be defined? Some "starting 
point," or, a "point of ultimate resolution -- or an 
arrival ?" Personally floating around is unhelpful, it 
costs time and energy but seems to have little or no 
goal. How does it help you, me or any one, with living 
-- at least in this world of three dimensions (4 if you 
include "time") that appears common in general 
experience and in logic that unites us.? So I am truly 
puzzled. Dallas>>

I suspect that you might be "truly puzzled" because 
you might be "truly immersed" in karma/maya. 
Presumably, at some point, your karma will allow you 
to have some kind of "aha" experience/s, so then you 
might start thinking that you might be (in a sense) less 
"truly puzzled"... Something like that? ^:-)

Speculatively,
Mauri