Theos-Talk Archives (March 2003 Message tt00030)

Steven all the books in the world won't bring one to the inner plane 
where these things are first conceived and occur. This is Theosophy: 
the physical is not a plane of cause, it is one of effect. That is 
what I meant by choice. I don't mean a physical conscious choice. No, 
it is too late for that, the die is already cast. This is why some 
are in the physical locale where they are caught up in something such 
as a war or holocaust. They had to have already chosen to be there 
BEFORE they got there. This decision is not a physical thing, but it 
can be under the control of those with this type of consciousness.

If you watch the news you will see that we are not only caught up in 
this 'rumor of war' but so is North Korea. They are threatening to do 
something nuclear and we have not even said a word to them. Thus 
history will be written that we ignored Korea and went after Iraq and 
Korea killed everyone in sight. Then will Bush get all the blame if 
billions of people are gone? Can he be the blame for something like 
this? And why are you not living in Korea where you or anyone might 
get annihilated? The same thing happened in Germany. I was not 
there, were you? 

What I know is NOT in any books I have read. I read history to 
confirm some things, but not to change or clarify what I have 
experienced. They are two separate things.

I do not want to discuss what Hitler, reborn, is now doing because he 
is still alive. And he just might have a website, I keep meaning to 
check on that. I'll tell you this though he is into astrology and 
considers himself among other things an astrologer, and a pretty good 
one at that.

Netemara

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--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Stubbs <stevestubbs@y...>" 
<stevestubbs@y...> wrote:
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "netemara888 <netemara888@y...>" 
> <netemara888@y...> wrote:
> > few people ever agree with me. Why? 
> > Because they simply do not have my state of consciousness.
> 
> Well, at least no one can accuse you of false modesty.
> 
> > So while I know 
> > myself not to have been a Spanish persecuted Jew or one who died 
in 
> > the Holocaust and none of my family
> 
> There were so many victims it is not unusual to find someone who 
> was. I have met several Theosophists in years past. It would not 
be 
> quite accurate to say that they disagree with you, but rather that 
> they have a different perspective. If one person knows what ice 
> cream tastes like and another does not, they may have different 
ideas 
> about the matter, but disagreement would not be an accurate 
> characterization of the difference.
> 
> > There is NO other way that 5 million Jews would have marched, 
some 
> > knowingly, to their deaths!!!
> 
> I am not arguing with you, but would suggest that you read Jean-
> Francois Steiner's book TREBLINKA, which deals tather extensively 
> with the reasons why that happened. It is very instructive. One 
> could just as easily ask how millions of Russian soldiers were 
> persuaded to die in the snow in defense of a foul dictator like 
> Stalin. These things do happen, and the reasons make interesting 
> historical inquiry.
> 
> > I do know Hitler's 
> > fate
> 
> Some time when you get a chance, please share that with us. Does 
he 
> manage a yahoo web site? Is he chancellor of a major university?