Theos-Talk Archives (February 2003 Message tt00012)

Feb 2 2003

Dear Mauri:

But /but suits for most things viewed from the fragile and wobbly view
of the transient phenomenal and material world. But why ?

Is it not because of the instability ? But then only something stable
can view and recognize the unstable. The fact that we even speak in
such a manner presupposes the existence of this contrast.

Hence we have REAL TRUTHS that are NOUMENAL AND FOUNDATIONAL and we
partial truths that come and go and yet have validity in their
restricted sphere of existence however transient and momentary.

Example? The sunset this evening is unique in your eyes, in mine a
few feet or miles away it is a sunset, but different.

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Have a look at these and see if they are of any value and help:

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"WHAT IS TRUTH?" by H. P. Blavatsky extracts from H P B Articles
Vol. I , p. 1...


These are some sentences that seemed to me to be of particular value:


The possible truths, hazily perceived in the world of abstraction,
like those inferred from observation and experiment in the world of
matter, are forced upon the profane multitudes, too busy to think for
themselves, under the form of "Divine revelation" and "scientific
authority."

There is no room for absolute truth upon any subject whatsoever, in a
world as finite and conditioned as man is himself. But there are
relative truths, and we have to make the best we can of them.

In every age there have been Sages who had mastered the absolute and
yet could teach but relative truths. For none yet, born of mortal
woman in our race, has, or could have given out, the whole and the
final truth to another man, for every one of us has to find that (to
him) final knowledge in himself.
No two minds can be absolutely alike, each has to receive the supreme
illumination through itself, according to its capacity, and from no
human light.

The greatest adept living can reveal of the Universal Truth only so
much as the mind he is impressing it upon can assimilate, and no more.

Polarity is universal, but the polariser lies in our own
consciousness. In proportion as our consciousness is elevated towards
absolute truth, so do we men assimilate it more or less absolutely.
Still each of us can RELATIVELY [ but/but ?] reach the Sun of Truth
even on this earth, and assimilate its warmest and most direct rays...

To achieve this, there are two methods: --

1. On the physical plane we may use our mental polariscope;
and, analyzing the properties of each ray, choose the purest.

2. On the plane of spirituality, to reach the Sun of Truth we
must work in dead earnest for the development of our higher nature. We
know that by paralyzing gradually within ourselves the appetites of
the lower personality, and thereby deadening the voice of the purely
physiological mind.. which depends upon, the organic brain--the animal
man in us may make room for the spiritual; and

Once aroused from its latent state, the highest spiritual senses and
perceptions grow in us in proportion, and develop pari passu with the
"divine man." This is what the great adepts, the Yogis in the East and
the Mystics in the West, have always done and are still doing.

Absolute truth is... immovable... the kingdom of absolute truth is not
of this world, while we are too much of it.

Truth is a multifaced jewel, the facets of which it is impossible to
perceive all at once, develop in you the inner knowledge.

When the Delphic oracle said ..."Man, know thyself," no greater or
more important truth was ever taught. ... Man has to know himself,
i.e., acquire the inner perceptions which never deceive, before he can
master any absolute truth.

Absolute truth is the symbol of Eternity, and no finite mind can ever
grasp the eternal, hence, no truth in its fulness can ever dawn upon
it. To reach the state during which man sees and senses it, we have to
paralyze the senses of the external man of clay. How ?

1. First of all, love of truth for its own sake

2. Second an impartial, unprejudiced mind, illuminated by pure
Spiritual Consciousness

3. Third. Observe the doings and the moral attitude...then name
that exceptional spot on the globe, where TRUTH is the honoured guest,
and LIE and SHAM the ostracised outcasts.


Selfishness is the impassable wall between the personal Self and
Truth. It is the prolific mother of all human vices. Selfishness
kills every noble impulse in our natures

Theosophy (the record of the research of the ages by countless Adepts
and their pupils) is divine knowledge, and knowledge is truth; every
true fact, every sincere word are thus part and parcel of Theosophy.
Theosophy allows a hearing and a fair chance to all. It deems no
views--if sincere--entirely destitute of truth.

Outside a certain highly spiritual and elevated state of mind, during
which Man is at one with the UNIVERSAL MIND -- he can get nought on
earth but relative truth, or truths, from whatsoever philosophy or
religion.

Theosophical truths, when they transcend a certain limit of
speculation, had better remain concealed from public view, for the
"evidence of things not seen" is no evidence save to him who sees,
hears, and senses it. It is not to be dragged outside the 'Holy of
Holies," the temple of the impersonal divine Ego, or the indwelling
SELF... a ray from the absolute truth can reflect itself only in the
pure mirror of its own flame -- our highest SPIRITUAL CONSCIOUSNESS.
And how can the darkness (of illusion) comprehend the LIGHT that
shineth in it?

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Seems as though no one can "convince" any one else of anything

Best wishes,

Dal

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mauri
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 5:44 AM
To:
Subject: re "truths,"

Dallas wrote: <<you have to decide on your own as to
what is reasonably proved. No one can do more than
submit evidence for you to judge on.>>

"I tend to agree." Which is another way of saying: I
tend to agree, but/"but"...

<<Personally, I do not find "speculation" to be of much
use.>>

Yes, we all seem to have our "personally's"...

<<I prefer to use data that is available to all >>

"Me too."

<<-- in that manner a greater consensus is usually
achieved and the possibility of error is narrowed.>>

"I tend to agree." Which is another way of saying: I
tend to agree, but/"but", I thought Theosophists, in
particular, might want to try to read between the lines,
as well ...

<<I mean, if you are sincerely seeking for TRUTH .>>

I was under the impression that "truths" on this plane
were relative, based on initial assumptions, being
dependent arisings, and so, while such "truths" may
often have much value on this plane, why not also take
into account the mayavic aspects of such truths ...

Thanks,
Mauri