Theos-Talk Archives (January 2003 Message tt00622)

What difference does it make who is who, when they preached, or what came 
first -- when the only thing necessary to know are the teachings of the 
universal laws of evolution, karma, Cosmogenesis and Anthropogenesis, etc., 
and the methods of attaining self realization or enlightenment that fits in 
with our Western education and modes of life? 

Does knowing about, worshipping, or "Loving" any particular deity, or 
incarnation of the universal consciousness add anything to our knowledge and 
wisdom necessary to achieve self realization? Does it teach us how to act in 
harmony with nature according to the laws of karma and based on the 
fundamental principles? Can it give us the necessary knowledge of the 
metaphysical science of Cosmogenesis and Anthropogenesis -- so as to be 
better able to help and teach others how they, too, can attain their 
individual "salvation" for themselves, as well as carry on the work of the TM 
-- without being trapped in any sort of organized religion and their 
particular dogmas, rituals and spiritual or yoga practices that were designed 
around life lived and the levels of knowledge hundreds of centuries ago?

As far as this acolyte of theosophy and its "mystery teachings" are 
concerned, all of BAG's proselytization and historical nomenclature is 
entirely meaningless and non productive with respect to achieving or 
attaining the aims and goals outlined in the Three Objects of the 
Theosophical Movement based on the Three Fundamental Principles of theosophy 
(which, I assume, is basically the same as the esoteric roots of every 
ethical and moral religion). I also assume that this is a forum to "discuss" 
those aspects of theosophy and the Theosophical Movement -- not the history 
of ancient religious cults or sects and their worship, dogmas, or rituals. 
(Although it's certainly reasonable to cite references to such information, 
when necessary.) 

My advice for all those wishing to acquire the perennial wisdom along with 
spiritual-psychic and material knowledge, attain self-realization, and become 
able to help achieve Universal Brotherhood and promote the welfare of the 
world -- is to stick with theosophy as it was originally presented, and let 
the others who profess their particular religious beliefs, dogmas, and 
rituals continue to babble on in their own forums with their meaningless (to 
us) nomenclatures and historical references -- while taking those fundamental 
teachings common to all of them and synthesized in the SD by HPB, as our sole 
guide and mentor. 

It's obvious that since BAG has, in the various anti theosophical diatribes 
on this and other Internet forums and web sites, entirely misinterpreted 
theosophy by his "personalizations," lumping all its organizations and 
spin-off pseudo teachers and authentic teachers in one basket, and making 
unfounded presumptions about its fundamental teachings and purposes of 
theosophy by taking bits and pieces of it out of context, and making 
judgments and opinions about what is the correct way to fulfill the objects 
of the Theosophical Movement -- he is entirely off base, and his comments are 
not worth our consideration or our counter arguments. 

All we have to be concerned with is; Can the theosophical teachings, whether 
or not we are theists, atheists, agnostics, or what not, achieve the same 
spiritual goals as those professed at the highest esoteric levels of any of 
those religions. If the answer is yes, then we can ignore all this historical 
and nomenclature stuff -- beyond just an academic and scholarly interest -- 
as being entirely unproductive to our individual studies, practices and 
modern day concerns.

LHM

In a message dated 01/26/03 3:29:08 AM, bhakti.eohn@verizon.net writes:

>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Bhakti Ananda Goswami 
>To: Blavatskiana@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 11:25 PM
>Subject: BA G Compares the Scriptures: PROOF That Amitabha Lokeshvara is
>Krishna-Vishnu
>
>
>Dear Friends,
>
>Here is some extremely important evidence of the relationship between 
Krishna-Vishnu
>worship and Pure Land Buddhism. In the below, I compare a few of the many
>verses in the Bhagavad gita and the essential Pure Land Text, the 
Saddharmapundarika,
>which are written in the same Vaishnava Sanskrit (full of specifically
>Krishna-centric Vaishnava cultus Deity Names and terms) and teach the same
>doctrines. 
>
> [PLEASE EXCUSE ALL UPPER CASE, AS THIS WAS TYPED WHEN I COULD NOT SEE
>WELL.) 
>
>BHIKSHU'S QUESTION 
>
>"YOU WROTE THAT THERE ARE SIMILARITIES BETWEEN KRISHNA'S BHAGAVAD GITA
>SELF-REVELATION AND THAT OF BUDDHA'S SELF REVELATION IN THE MAIN MAHAYANA
>BUDDHIST SCRIPTURE CALLED THE SADDHARMAPUNDARIKA. WHERE IS THE SIMILARITY
>? " 
>
>
>
>(BA G) BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI'S ANSWER
>
>THERE ARE FAR MORE THAN SIMILARITIES. FIRST YOU MUST REALIZE THAT THE
>WHOLE SCRIPTURE IS IN VAISHNAVA-RELATED SANSKRIT, AND THAT IT IS PERVADED
>WITH A VAISHNAVA SYSTEM OF REFERENCE IN GENERAL. THEN MANY SPECIFIC DEITY
>NAMES OF KRISHNA-VISHNU AND THEIR EMANATIONS / EXPANSIONS AND INCARNATIONS
>ARE CENTRAL TO THE TEXT.
> 
>
>
>BHIKSHU
>
>"WHY HAVE I NOT HEARD ABOUT THIS BEFORE ?"
>
>
>BA G 
>
>MODERN INDIAN VAISHNAVAS GENERALLY THINK THAT ALL BUDDHISM IS ATHEISTIC,
>AND THUS DON'T BOTHER TO STUDY PURE LAND BUDDHISM. BUDDHISTS DON'T 
GENERALLY
>STUDY VAISHNAVISM. WESTERNERS WHO STUDY BOTH TRADITIONS GENERALLY HAVE
>NO INTEREST IN GETTING BUDDHISTS AND VAISHNAVAS TOGETHER. THE IDENTITY
>OF BUDDHA-LOKESHVARA AS KRISHNA-VISHNU IN PURE LAND TEXTS WAS RECOGNIZED
>BY WESTERN SCHOLARS MORE THAN 100 YEARS AGO. IN THE ORIGINAL FOOTNOTES
>TO THE OXFORD TRANSLATION OF THE SADDHARMAPUNDARIKA, BUDDHA, WHO IS THE
>SPEAKER AND CENTRAL FIGURE IN THE SUTRA, IS IDENTIFIED WITH VISHNU. THE
>ATHEISTIC FORM OF BUDDHISM HAS LONG SUPPRESSED THE TRUTH ABOUT THE VAISHNAVA
>GENEALOGY OF BUDDHISM IN GENERAL. VAISHNAVAS ARE LIKEWISE IN DENIAL ABOUT
>THEIR HISTORICAL CONNECTIONS TO BOTH BUDDHISM AND THE JUDEO-CATHOLIC 
TRADITION.
> ....IN TWO WORDS, THE PROBLEM CAN BE SUMMED UP AS UNKNOWING AND PREJUDICE.
> PREJUDICE IS PREVENTING THE HUMAN RACE IN GENERAL FROM HAVING ANY PERCEPTION
>OF THIS PROFOUNDLY IMPORTANT TRUTH. WHEN COMMUNICATION IS POSSIBLE, 
ETHNO-CENTRIC
>OR RELIGIOUS PRIDE AND PREJUDICE PERPETUATE UNKNOWING, BY BLOCKING 
COMMUNICATION
>/ LEARNING. 
>
>I WILL USE A REPRINT OF THIS OLD TEXT TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. 
>
>THE FOLLOWING QUOTATIONS ARE FROM THE 1963 DOVER (NEW YORK USA) EDITION
>REPUBLICATION OF THE OLD OXFORD UNIVERSITY, 1884 CLAREDON PRESS PUBLICATION
>OF VOLUME XXI OF "THE SACRED BOOKS OF THE EAST" 
>
>THIS VOLUME IS ENTITLED 
>
>"SADDHARMA-PUNDARIKA or THE LOTUS OF THE TRUE LAW". 
>
>IT WAS TRANSLATED BY PROF. H. KERN. 
>
>FROM THE RE-PRINTERS NOTES... 
>
>" THE SADDHARMA-PUNDARIKA (THE LOTUS OF THE TRUE LAW), ONE OF THE MAHAYANA
>SUTRAS, IS PERHAPS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT MAHAYANA BUDDHIST WORK. COMPOSED
>ORIGINALLY IN INDIA, SOME SECTIONS WRITTEN AS EARLY AS THE BEGINNING OF
>THE CHRISTIAN ERA, THE LOTUS IS HELD IN ENORMOUS ESTEEM BY THE NORTHERN
>SCHOOLS OF BUDDHISM AND BY CHINESE AND JAPANESE BUDDHISTS, PARTICULARLY
>TENDAI AND LATER DEVELOPMENTS. DESCRIBED AS 'THE MOST EMINENT,' OF ALL
>THE SUTRAS, 'THE CROWN JEWEL,' IN WHICH 'ALL THE BUDDHA-LAWS ARE SUCCINCTLY
>TAUGHT,' THE LOTUS IS A KEYSTONE IN THE EDUCATION OF EVERY SERIOUS BUDDHIST."
>
>
>ALTHOUGH BOTH KERN'S TRANSLATION AND COMMENTARY ARE ATHEISTIC, HE DOES
>MENTION PARALLELS TO THE GITA, AND ADMITS THAT THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT THE
>MAHAYANA TRADITION WAS ONCE DEVOTIONAL. IN FACT HIS INTRODUCTION MAKES
>REPEATED REFERENCES TO SRI KRISHNA'S SELF REVELATION IN THE BHAGAVAD-GITA.
> HOWEVER HIS OWN MONISTIC (MAYAVADI) VIEW OF THE GITA REINFORCES HIS 
ATHEISTIC
>INTERPRETATION OF THE LOTUS SUTRA. THERE ARE SCORES OF IMPORTANT VAISHNAVA
>PARALLELS IN THE TEXT, BUT BECAUSE KERNS WAS NOT TRAINED IN VAISHNAVISM,
>HE COULD NOT RECOGNIZE THEM. FURTHERMORE HIS ADVAITI PERSPECTIVE MADE
>IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR HIM TO REALLY GRASP THE TRINITARIAN VAISHNAVA-RELATED
>REVELATION OF THE SUTRA.
>
>THIS IS A FOOTNOTE TO PAGE 5 OF THE ACTUAL INTRODUCTORY TEXT OF THE SUTRA.
>
>
>(KERN) 
>
>" IT MAY BE REMARKED THAT IN THE ENUMERATION OF THE GODS, BETWEEN SIVA
>AND BRAHMA, VISHNU IS WANTING. THOSE WHO ADOPT THE VIEW THAT SAKYAMUNI
>IS AN AVATARA OF VISHNU, CONSEQUENTLY A MYTHICAL BEING, WILL READILY ACCOUNT
>FOR THAT OMISSION BY SAYING THAT VISHNU AND THE LORD BUDDHA ARE IDENTICAL,
>SO THAT VISHNU IS PRESENT IN THE GATHERING, UNDER THE DISGUISE OF BUDDHA."
>
>
>THIS IS SUCH AN OUTRAGEOUS STATEMENT, BECAUSE ANY HONEST PERSON STUDYING
>AVALOKITESHVARA OR LOKESHVARA IN RELATION TO VISHNU MUST ADMIT THAT THEY
>ARE THE SAME BEING. SINCE THE LOTUS SUTRA ITSELF DECLARES, OUT OF BUDDHA'S
>OWN MOUTH, THAT AVALOKITESHVARA APPEARS AS BUDDHA TO PREACH THE DHARMA,
>THE LOTUS SUTRA ITSELF ASSERTS THE VIEW THAT BUDDHA IS AN INCARNATION OF
>VISHNU. THE ADI BUDDHA MANIFESTS AMITAYUS-LOKESVARA, WHO THEN INCARNATES
>AS INNUMERABLE BUDDHAS. SAKYAMUNI IS ONE SUCH BUDDHA INCARNATION. BUDDHA
>IN THE 'HEARTS' OF ALL THE ASSEMBLED BEINGS IS THE IMMANENT FORM OF HRIH
>OR LOKESVARA. THUS THE THREE IRREDUCIBLE FORMS, PERSONS OR BODIES OF
>THE BUDDHA (OR PURUSHA) ARE THE TRI-KAYA OF THE 1. DHARMA KAYA, 2. SAMBHOGYA
>KAYA (SOMETIMES CALLED NIRMANYA KAYA) AND 3. RUPA KAYA. 
>
>CHAPTER XXIV 
>THE ALL-SIDED ONE, CONTAINING A DESCRIPTION OF THE TRANSFORMATIONS OF 
AVALOKITESVARA
>
>
>PAGES 410 & 411 
>
>(GET OUT YOUR BHAGAVAD-GITAS TO COMPARE HOW SRI KRISHNA DESCRIBES HIS 
MANIFESTATIONS)
>
>
>THE SETTING IS SAKYAMUNI BUDDHA ADDRESSING A VAST NUMBERLESS SEA OF BEINGS
>FROM MANY WORLDS AND DIMENSIONS. DEMIGODS, ANGELS, SAINTS, BODHISATTVAS,
>ALL ARE THERE TO HEAR HIM GIVE THIS SUPREME REVELATION OF THE PURE LAND
>DHARMA. A BODHISATTVA APPROACHES HIM WITH THIS QUESTION... 
>
>"HOW, OH LORD, IS IT THAT THE BODHISATTVA MAHASATTVA AVALOKITESVARA FREQUENTS
>THIS SAHA WORLD ? AND HOW DOES HE PREACH THE LAW ? AND WHICH IS THE RANGE
>OF SKILLFULNESS OF THE BODHISATTVA MAHASATTVA AVALOKITESVARA ? SO ASKED,
>THE LORD REPLIED TO THE BODHISATTVA MAHASATTVA AKSHAYAMATI: IN SOME WORLDS,
>YOUNG MAN OF GOOD FAMILY, THE BODHISATTVA MAHASATTVA AVALOKITESVARA PREACHES
>THE LAW TO CREATURES IN THE SHAPE OF A BUDDHA; IN OTHERS HE DOES SO IN
>THE SHAPE OF A BODHISATTVA. TO SOME BEINGS HE SHOWS THE LAW IN THE SHAPE
>OF A PRATYEKABUDDHA; TO OTHERS HE DOES SO IN THE SHAPE OF A DISCIPLE; TO
>OTHERS AGAIN UNDER THAT OF BRAHMA, INDRA OR A GANDHARVA. TO THOSE WHO ARE
>TO BE CONVERTED BY A GOBLIN, HE PREACHES THE LAW ASSUMING THE SHAPE OF
>A GOBLIN; TO THOSE WHO ARE TO BE CONVERTED BY ISHVARA, HE PREACHES THE
>LAW IN THE SHAPE OF ISHVARA; TO THOSE WHO ARE TO BE CONVERTED BY MAHESVARA,
>HE PREACHES ASSUMING THE SHAPE OF MAHESVARA. TO THOSE WHO ARE TO BE CONVERTED
>BY A KAKRAVARTIN (1), HE SHOWS THE LAW AFTER ASSUMING THE SHAPE OF A 
KAKRAVARTIN;
>TO THOSE WHO ARE TO BE CONVERTED BY AN IMP, HE SHOWS THE LAW UNDER THE
>SHAPE OF AN IMP; TO THOSE WHO ARE TO BE CONVERTED BY KUBERA, HE SHOWS THE
>LAW BY APPEARING IN THE SHAPE OF KUBERA; TO THOSE WHO ARE TO BE CONVERTED
>BY SENAPATI (2), HE PREACHES IN THE SHAPE OF SENAPATI; TO THOSE WHO ARE
>TO BE CONVERTED BY ASSUMING A BRAHMAN (3), HE PREACHES IN THE SHAPE OF
>A BRAHMAN; 
>......[HE] AFFORDS SAFETY TO THOSE WHO ARE IN ANXIETY. ON THAT ACCOUNT
>ONE CALLS HIM IN THIS SAHA-WORLD ABHAYANDADA (I.E. GIVER OF SAFETY)." 
>
>PAGE 413 
>
>(BUDDHA) 
>
>" LISTEN TO THE CONDUCT OF AVALOKITESVARA. 
>
>3. HEAR FROM MY INDICATION HOW FOR NUMEROUS, INCONCEIVABLE AEONS HE HAS
>ACCOMPLISHED HIS VOTE [VOW] UNDER MANY THOUSAND KOTIS OF BUDDHAS. 
>
>4. HEARING, SEEING, REGULARLY AND CONSTANTLY THINKING (3) WILL INFALLIBLY
>DESTROY ALL SUFFERING, (MUNDANE) EXISTENCE, AND GRIEF OF LIVING BEINGS
>HERE ON EARTH. " 
>
>BELOW EXCERPTED FROM KERN'S FOOTNOTES... 
>
>PAGES 410 AND 411 
>
>(1) MOVER OF THE WHEEL, I.E. VISHNU 
>
>(2) SKANDA 
>
>(3) BRIHASPATI 
>
>
>*************************************************************************
>
>BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI'S COMMENTS ON THE FOOTNOTES
>
>ACTUALLY (1) CAKRAVARTIN IS A NAME OF SRI KRISHNA, AND HIS DISCUS-WIELDING
>VISHNU MANIFESTATION. KRISHNA'S CIRCLE / CYCLE KYKLOS / CAKRA SYMBOL 
ACTUALLY
>IS THE COMMON SYMBOL FOR HIS NAME IN THE ANCIENT WORLD. THUS IN EGYPT
>FOR EXAMPLE, THE CIRCLE GLYPH ALWAYS REPRESENTS HERU, AND IS 'READ' HERU
>(HIS NAME). IN JUDEA THE 'SOLAR' CIRCLE REPRESENTS ELI. AMONG THE GREEKS
>IT REPRESENTS KOUROS HELIOS OF RHODES. IN INDIA THE CAKRA ALWAYS BELONGS
>TO KRISHNA OR VISHNU OR THEIR SURYA-NARAYANA FORM. IN ASIA, THE 'SOLAR
>SYMBOL' IS ASSOCIATED WITH AMITABHA, WHO WESTERN SCHOLARS HAVE LONG 
CONSIDERED
>ONE OF THE 'CLASS OF SUPREME SOLAR DEITIES'. THE MISTAKE OF THESE SCHOLARS
>HAS BEEN TO MISUNDERSTAND THIS ONE DEITY'S WIDESPREAD WORSHIP AS NOTHING
>MORE, OR OTHER, THAN SOME KIND OF SUN WORSHIP. 
>
>SKANDA (2) SENAPATI OR SKANDA-MARUGAN WAS WORSHIPED AS MARS IN ROME, WHERE
>GANESHA WAS JANUS.
>
>BRIHASPATI (3) LIKE SKANDA AND KUBERA, INDRA, BRAHMA ETC. ARE ALL 
MANIFESTATIONS
>OF SRI KRISHNA FOUND NOT ONLY IN THE GITA, BUT IN NUMEROUS OTHER ANCIENT
>VAISHNAVA TEXTS AS WELL. MANY OF THESE FORMS COME THROUGH CHINA AND KOREA,
>ALL THE WAY INTO JAPAN, WHERE THEY CONTINUE TO BE WORSHIPED ALONGSIDE 
AMITABHA
>HRIH (HARI KRISHNA) AND LOKESHVARA (VISHNU). In ancient Japanese Pure
>Land Buddhism AMIDA is HRIH, and His two-armed SHO KANNON Form is the DHARMA
>KAYA as AMITABHA-AMITAYUS or KRISHNA-BALARAMA. SHO KANNON THE ORIGINAL
>OR ADI BUDDHA HAS A FLUTE. Lokeshvara is Vishnu, The Catholic Mary is
>Kichijo-ten and SRI LAKSHMI, and Benzai-ten as SARASVATI. Emma is Yama.
>Surya & Chandra are Nikko and Gakko. Taishaku-ten is Indra. Bonten is
>Brahma. The Alvar KANAN is ASAKUSA SHO (FLUTE) KANNON IN TOKYO. The Tana
>Bata Festival is Radha-Krishna's Rasa Lila Festival. JESUS-CHARAKA 
(BALARAMA)
>IS THE GREAT PHYSICIAN YAKUSHI JI AT NARA. The Nepalese Form of Krishna
>as Infinite Light / Amitabha can be seen with His Flute and peacock feather
>on the Great Lamp at Nara etc. The ecstatic HARI NAM NEMBUTSU MOVEMENTS
>of HRIH, popularized by the Pure Land Saints like Honen, Shinran, Ippen
>and Nichiren Shonin in Japan were all AMIDA-LOKESHVARA CENTRIC BHAKTI 
DEVOTIONAL
>MOVEMENTS. These continue today in the present SOKA GAKKAI and other current
>Nembutsu and Jewel-Lotus Prayer Japanese Buddhist popular japa mantra 
phenomena.
> "Soka Gakkai International (SGI)-USA is an American Buddhist association
>that promotes world peace and individual happiness based on the teachings
>of the Nichiren school of Mahayana Buddhism."
>
>*****************************************************************************

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>THE BHAGAVAD GITA AND LOTUS SUTRA REVELATIONS COMPARED 
>BY TRIDANDI SWAMI HH BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI 
>
>"SADDHARMA-PUNDARIKA or THE LOTUS OF THE TRUE LAW", TRANSLATED BY PROF.
>H. KERN. 
>
>BUDDHA'S SELF-REVELATION IN THE SADDHARMAPUDARIKA
>
>FORMS THAT THE ADI PURUSHA AS AVALOKITESVARA ASSUMES TO TEACH / CONVERT
>/ SAVE BEINGS IN THE WORLD OF SUFFERING (SAHA WORLD), LISTED IN ORDER FROM
>THE ABOVE... 
>
>I. BUDDHA 
>2. BODHISATTVA 
>3. PRATYEKABUDDHA 
>4. DISCIPLE 
>5. BRAHMA 
>6. INDRA 
>7. GANDHARVA 
>8. GOBLIN 
>9. ISVARA 
>10. MAHESVARA 
>11. KAKRAVARTIN 
>12. IMP 
>13. KUBERA 
>14. SENAPATI / SKANDA 
>15. BRAHMAN / BRIHASPATI 
>
>COMPARE TO SRI KRISHNA'S SELF-REVELATION IN THE BAHGAVAD GITA 
........................
>
>FROM " BHAGAVAD-GITA AS IT IS" BY HIS DIVINE GRACE A.C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI
>SRILA PRABHUPADA (1972 EDITION) 
>
>SRI KRISHNA SAYS "I AM...." 
>
>1. BUDDHA CH. 4 TXT 7, PURPORT PAGE 225 
>
>2. AVALOKITESVARA BODHISATTVA = VISHNU 
>CH. 7 TXT 4, PURPORT PAGES 367 AND 368 
>KRISHNA'S VISHNU EXPANSIONS AND PURUSHA 
>INCARNATIONS ARE DESCRIBED. THESE ARE 
>ALL FORMS OF AVALOKITESVARA IN NORTHERN 
>BUDDHISM. 
>
>3. * PRATYEKABUDDHA 
>
>4. DASA AVATARA IS WHEN KRISHNA APPEARS AS 
>HIS OWN DISCIPLE-SERVANT, LORD BALADEVA 
>IS ALSO CALLED 'THE SERVITOR LORD'. 
>
>5. BRAHMA CH. 10, TXT 33, PAGE 530 
>
>6. INDRA CH. 10, TXT 22, PAGES 520 - 521 
>
>7. GANDHARVA CH. 10, TXT 26, PAGE 524 
>(CITRARATHA) 
>
>8. * GOBLIN 
>
>9. ISVARA CH. 9, TXT 11, PURPORT PAGE 459 
>
>10. MAHESVARA CH. 7, TXT 14, PURPORT PAGE 380 
>MAHESVARAM CH. 9, TXT 11, PAGE 458 
>
>11. CAKRAVARTIN CH.11, TXT 46, PAGES 577& 578 
>CAKRA-HASTAM) [CAKRAVARTIN COMMONLY] 
>
>12. *IMP 
>
>13. KUBERA CH. 10, TXT 23, PAGE 521 
>
>14. SKANDA CH. 10, TXT 24, PAGE 522 
>
>15. BRHASPATI CH. 10, TXT 24, PAGE 522 
>
>* NOT TRANSLITERATED BY KERNS.
>
>OBVIOUSLY THE DEITY SPEAKING THE GITA AND THE LOTUS SUTRA IS THE SAME DEITY.
>THIS IS WHY ALL OF NORTHERN BUDDHISM WORSHIPS THE FORMS OF KRISHNA-VISHNU
>AS THE FORMS OF AMITABHA-LOKESHVARA. 
>
>
>SOME EXAMPLES OF THE SAME LILA-AVATARA FORM OF LOKESHVARA AND VISHNU
>
>NARASINGHA VISHNU = NARASINGHA LOKESVARA 
>VARAHA VISHNU = BARAHA LOKESVARA 
>HAYAGRIVA VISHNU = HAYAGRIVA LOKESVARA 
>MATSYA VISHNU = MACCHA LOKESVARA 
>KALAH (MAHADEVA SHIVA ) VISHNU = KALAH (MAHADEVA SHIVA) LOKESVARA 
>
>
>
>SOME OF THE OTHER FORMS IN COMMON BETWEEN BUDDHA-LOKESHVARA AND VISHNU
>
>
>LOKESVARA ON THE CAUSAL WATERS = MAHA VISHNU 
>
>BUDDHA NILAKANTHA = GARBODAKSAYI VISHNU ON ANANTA SESHA NAGA IN THE GARBODAK
>OCEAN
>
>MUCHILINDA BUDDHA = VISHNU-BUDDHA ON ANANTA NAGASANA
>
>LOKESVARA (HRIH) in the HEART of ALL BEINGS = PARAMATMA VISHNU 
>
>LOKESVARA AS ALL THE PURUSHA AVATARAS = VISHNU AS ALL THE PURUSHA AVATARAS
>
>LOKESHVARA AS BUDDHA, BRAHMA, MAHESHVARA (SHIVA), INDRA, SURYA, CHANDRA,
>SKANDA, BRIHASPATI, KUBERA ETC. = VISHNU AS BUDDHA, BRAHMA, MAHESHVARA
>(SHIVA), INDRA, SURYA, CHANDRA, SKANDA, BRIHASPATI, KUBERA ETC. 
>
>
>
>FROM NEPAL ALL THE WAY TO JAPAN, KRISHNA'S AND VISHNU'S NAMES CAN BE FOUND
>AS THE NAMES OF THE ADI-BUDDHA (DHARMA KAYA) AND HIS PRIMARY 'REFLEX' OR
>EXPANSION, LOKESHVARA (SAMBHOGYA KAYA). 
>
>
>HRIH 
>BHAGAVAN 
>PURUSOTTAMA 
>NARAYANA 
>ADI PURUSHA 
>CHAKRAVARTIN 
>ETC. 
>
>THEIR ALL-PERVASIVE FORM, AS THE LORD IN THE HEART, IS HRIH IN ALL FORMS
>AS RUPA KAYA. 
>
>
>KRISHNA-VISHNU'S FORMS (RUPA) ARE FOUND EVERYWHERE WITH HIS NAMES (NAMA).
> HIS HIGHEST 'ADI' OR ORIGINAL FORM IS HIS TWO-ARMED BEAUTIFUL 'SHO' 
(JAPANESE
>'ORIGINAL' AND 'FLUTE') DHARMA KAYA FORM, WHO IS THE 'LOVER OF THE SOUL'
>(KRISHNA or KOUROS), AND 'FATHER' OR CAUSELESS SOURCE OF ALL. HIS 1000
>ARMED FORM AS THE UNIVERSAL PURUSHA / VIRATA RUPA IS THE COSMIC PURUSHA
>FORM OF LOKESVARA WITH HIS MANY HEADS AND 1000 ARMS. 
>
>
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