Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00721)

Dec 27 2002

Dear Friend:

Re S D I 612 the Pythagorean Triangle

You ask if some light can be thrown by Theosophy on this curious
statement.

The ten points inscribed within that "Pythagorean Triangle"
......For he who interprets them - on their very face and the
order given - will find in these seventeen points (the seven
Mathematical Points hidden) the uninterrupted series of the
genealogies from the first Heavenly to terrestrial man ..."

I wonder if these musings of mine, based on a study of theosophy,
might help?

What have we here? It is a study in the nature of the various
kinds of beings that inhabit the Kosmos (the Universe, our solar
system, our Earth) and, by analogy, our small Cosmos -- the
human body. Basically as The SECRET DOCTRINE states earlier the
Universe is composed of immortal Monads.

The Monad is an entity of SPIRIT and matter ( ATMA and BUDDHI )
inextricable intertwined and because of their intelligence the
Mind ( MANAS ) in manifestation forms part of this indissoluble
unit. It is called the THREE IN ONE. The Caduceus wand also
symbolises this three-in-one unity -- the three serpents
intertwined. -- each of 6 loops = 18 ; or (17 + 1 = 18). The
ONE here synthesizes the rest and makes of it a whole.

All beings we know of have material forms. But, if we seek for
the limiting factors of those forms we find nothing definite.
Science so far, cannot explain why crystals elements, materials,
compounds, biological growth and their limiting factors are as
found.

Theosophy in its esotericism speaks of forces powers and
intelligences that live in the “Astral Light”. This Astral
Light, surrounds all forms, small or great. There is an atomic,
a human, and a Universal “Astral Light.” They are all
interactive. Karma finds in this the channels that are used to
harmonize diversity.

They (scientists) can only examine them (materials) and mark
their changes and reactions to certain carefully administered
stimuli. That range of stimulus is usually expressed in terms of
the vibrations known variously as temperature, pressure, light,
sound, electricity, magnetism, atomic weight, valence, and with
their response to reagents of various kinds. Thus the properties
of substances are determined in chemistry and physics, and
existence in the known world of physical things.

Theosophy speaks of the electro-magnetic invisible subtle form
and names it the “Astral Body.” It states that this Astral Body
precedes the physical, and in fact, it underlies it and gives to
the atoms and molecules of any substance their shape, properties
and all other limits.

But what sets limits to the electro-magnetic properties and
shapes and qualities of the “Astral ?” Theosophy states that
these are derived from the “Life currents:” Prana, and Jiva.
Here we also enter the realm of Karma -- the aspects of the
universal law of affinity, where by any force or shape interacts
with others.

Theosophy holds that the force of the psychic nature of affinity
and repulsion work on all planes and are guided by the innate
nature and composition -- a determination by the Monads that
cooperate, or agree not to do so and proceed to set up forces and
barriers that repel each other.

Theosophy further holds that these immortal Monads are the units
of the school to developing intelligence in the Universe -- a
view so wide that one can only wonder at the power of evolution
that balances every aspect of individual living with every other
one.

The 10 points of the Pythagorean TRIANGLE may be in one way
summarized as
3 + 3 + 4 or 3 + 7 where the basic THREE relate to the
metaphysical mysteries of primary existence -- called by us the
ABSOLUTE and SPIRIT and MATTER.

The metaphysical then shifts to the process of concretization and
materializing -- it is a process that requires every immortal
Monad to undergo all aspects of the evolutionary scheme
individually and personally. Hence when the power and force of
Life passes out of the transcendent into the material and limited
realms it is seen as

3 representing the immortal aspect : ATMA - BUDDHI - MANAS

and the

4 representing the physical and personal aspect :

KAMA (desire and passion) - PRANA
(individualized Life-energy)

ASTRAL BODY (electro-magnetic form) - PHYSICAL
BODY.

As H P B says on that page : the seven Mathematical Points
hidden -- they are indeed hidden
but also if one studies the S D one discovers that they are
revealed.

That is our task to assimilate our lives to the whole of
evolution

Best wishes,

Dallas

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One of the interesting aspects of the number 17 is narrated here:


THE SEVENTEEN-RAYED SUN-DISC

[The following interesting letter was received by us from Fresno,
California. As it is a private one, we can give but extracts from
it.--Ed.]
Exploring Copan and Quinqua in Honduras and Guatemala last year,
I had the good fortune to make a discovery, which I am sure will
interest you. As you are aware, the most prominent sculptured
monuments in Copan consist of four-sided columns of from 10 to 12
feet high. These columns represent generally only on one side
large sculptured personages in high relief.
The other sides again contain ornaments and glyphic inscriptions,
hitherto not read or deciphered. One pillar not previously
described, however, contains only hieroglyphics arranged on all
sides. It seems to be a record perhaps of laws, perhaps of
historical events. This pillar is about 10 feet high, and the
sides 3 and 4 feet wide respectively. But the most remarkable is
that this pillar was covered by a cap in the shape of a very low
truncate pyramid. On this pyramid was seen a forced dead head of
colossal dimensions and surrounding the same was an expanded
"sun-disc," crowning the very cap. The rays of the sun-disc were
distinctly marked. The similarity of the same and the sun discs
common in the Egyptian monuments was so marked, that it
immediately struck me that the number of rays must be 17, the
sacred number of the Egyptian sun-disc. Upon counting the rays
they were found to be as expected--17.
Now is this a pure "coincidence" or is it another link in the
broken and scattered chain, whose finding points toward an
ancient connection between the Central American peoples, the
Mayas and other races, and the Egyptians by means of a connecting
Atlantis?
Another curiosity, naturally a "coincidence," is worthy of
notice. One of these sculptured personages dressed in priestly
robes and holding in his hand a small square box, has his legs
above the sandals ornamented with the CRESCENT. The same sign was
used by the Romans to signify immortality and similarly placed
above the sandals.
Cannot your trans-Himalayan Brothers give us any clue to these
hieroglyphics inscribed on the Central American Monuments? Or
have you no Psychometrists who could decipher them
psychometrically? If any one should be willing to try to do so, I
would send him a small portion of one of the glyphs I have in my
possession, and may be some good will come out of it.

E.G.
EDITOR'S NOTE.--Assuredly the discovery mentioned in the above
letter,--the pillar with its 17-rayed sun-disc,--points once more
to an ancient connexion between the Central American peoples and
the lost continent of Atlantis. The uniformity in the symbolical
meanings of American antiquities, and of antiquities connected
with "the wisdom religion" in Egypt or any other parts of Europe
or Asia where they may be observed, is certainly far more
remarkable than would be agreeable to theorists who wish to
account for it by help of that hard-worked servant--coincidence.
It has been traced with great patience through many different
departments of archaeology by Mr. Donnelly in his recent
"Atlantis; or the Antediluvian World." The second part of the
title of this volume, by the by, will not be quite acceptable to
students of the subject who approach it from the side of occult
science. The deluge is better left alone until cosmogony is more
generally understood than at present. There is no one deluge that
can conveniently be taken as a turning point in the world's
history,--with everything before that antediluvian, and
everything of later date--postdiluvian There have been many such
deluges cutting the various races of mankind at the appointed
time in their development. The situation has already been
referred to in the "Fragments of Occult Truth." During the
occupation of the Earth for one period by the great tidal wave of
humanity, seven great races are successively developed, their end
being in every case marked by a tremendous cataclysm which
changes the face of the earth in the distribution of land and
water. The present race of mankind, as often stated, is the fifth
race. The inhabitants of the great continent of Atlantis were the
fourth race. When they were in their prime, the European
continent was not in existence as we know it now, but none the
less was there free communication between Atlantis and such
portions of Europe as did exist, and Egypt. The ancient Egyptians
themselves were not an Atlantic colony. Mr. Donnelly is mistaken
on that point, but the wisdom Religion of the initiates was
certainly identical and hence the identities of symbolical
sculpture. This is what the "Himalayan Brothers" say; whether any
of our psychometrists will see any further, depends on the degree
of their development, at any rate, we accept the offer of our
esteemed correspondent with thanks and will expect the promised
portion of the glyph, before we venture to say anything further.
Theosophist, May, 1883
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gopi Chari
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:27 AM
To:
Subject Pythagoras Triangle

Hi Louis, Dallas or anyone out there,

Could you please interpret or just tell what is HPB talking about
on Page 612 of Cosmogenesis second paragraph in the 'Gods,
Monads and Atoms section?

The ten points inscribed within that "Pythagorean Triangle"
......For he who interprets them - on their very face and the
order given - will find in these seventeen points (the seven
mathematical points hidden) the uninterrupted series of the
geneologies from the first Heavenly to terrestial man ..."

Thank you all
Gopi
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