Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00637)

Dec 21 2002

Dear Friend:

I see we are, as I thought, in agreement.

There is no opposition, or conflict here, with what I know of the
Theosophical philosophy.

All Great and Pure Masters are ELDER BROTHERS. [See ISIS UNVEILED II,
p. 98 - 103]

It is they who grant the gift of Mind to the mindless, and as the
"Elder Brothers," encourage its free and independent development (from
a "spark" In the potential of the mineral) to the fullness of the
GREAT SOUL, who lives with mankind, but to assist and illuminate it.
We, humankind, are in this critical stage of developing the "ethical
mind" and applying brotherhood in our lives and in all our relations
with others.

Best wishes,

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: Etzion Becker [mailto:etvionbb@netvision.net.il]
Sent:	Saturday, December 21, 2002 12:33 AM
To:	theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject:	Re: Theos-World RE: [Blavatsky_Study] Re: Universal Law

Dear Dallas, I appreciate you deep knowledge. I included more comments
which
convey my Master's views on these topics. Etzion

> Dec. 20 2002
>
> Dear Friends:
>
> My not take the common sense point of view.
>
> We know we exist. REALITY ONE.
>
> We know we direct the body so we are NOT the body alone, although we
> live in it. When the body sleeps, WE go elsewhere, and, we return
> to the BODY when it has rested. REALITY TWO.

**In this regard, it was said that we go to the Beyond Beyond State -
Paratpar Parabrahama - where God is not conscious of His Godhood.
Sound
sleep state.

>
> We cannot attach to our selves, as a CONSCIOUSNESS any material
> attributes or description. Yet WE ARE.
>
> We feel emotions, and we desire sensations and the objects that seem
> to make our sensations pleasant. We fear accidents and reverses of
> fortune, pain, suffering, etc... REALITY THREE
>
> We are essentially THINKERS. We are able to review the past (fully
or
> partially) of our life and actions. We are able to remember and
from
> that, to anticipate a number of futures. The imagination is the
> "king" faculty. Using that we see how the imposition of certain
> factors and actions on the present can lead to a future we have
> selected, Apparently each of us possesses a creative WILL. REALITY
> FOUR.

**We think because we were granted minds, which started as a very
faint
state of consciousness, already from the stone state, and very slowly,
through the acquiring of impressions, we develop the mind into the
human
state, which thinks freely. But *WE*, are not the thinker. We have a
thinking mechanism.

>
> The things, plus or minus, that shape our environment (body,
feelings,
> mind, and their conditions past, present and future) make us aware
> that we, as a CONSCIOUSNESS, as a MIND, may have lived before in
other
> bodies.
> Reincarnation as a possibility, past and future ought to be
> recognized. REALITY FIVE.

**The mind with its accumulated impressions, forces the individual
drop soul
to keep on incarnating, in order to exhaust all these impressions. But
the
very fact of exhausting impressions, new ones are being formed, so the
process is actually infinite. The only way to get out of this viscious
cycle, is the Grace of the Perfect Master.

>
> Another bolster to this argument and speculation, is the fact that
the
> Universe we live in seems to run according to LAWS. The whole area
of
> science is found to be based on the observation of Laws, the tracing
> of their operations, the repetitiveness of actions, the responses to
> similar stimuli, reagents, conditions, etc... The whole science of
> our technological and ecological life (not to mention our well-being
> in other ways) depends on the faithful repetition of results,
> dependent on the input of certain conditions. Nature, as a whole,
> responds predictably. REALITY SIX.
>
> Why would the human being be omitted from such a generality ? Why
> should they alone be lawless?
>
> Why are ethics, morals, correct behaviour, virtues subjects to be
> avoided ? Why should they not be thoroughly investigated to see if
> there is any LAW operating there ? If we study several religions we
> find that the ethics and morals of individual and community
behaviour
> is emphasized. In fact there is a remarkable similarity found when
> they are compared. How does that happen ?

**It is all due to the work of the Perfect Masters, who actually form
the
spiritual government on Earth. They work like one body, trying to
install in
our brains the fundamentals of true spirituality, which is the art of
wiping
out of these impressions, which enslave the soul. They gave all these
Laws,
in order that we will understand how the Divine Mechanism is
operating, in
order to reduce suffering.


>
> Would it be wrong to consider the human being as a pupil in a vast
> school where learning is constantly a part of its life?

**As long as the drop soul doesn't enter a path of spiritual practice
under
the supervision of the Wise Ones, he is bound to be tossed in the
winds of
life.
>
> Would we be wrong to consider that the CONSCIOUSNESS of each human
is
> immortal and always lives although as time passes it uses many
bodies?

**What i understood is that the process of evolution created a state
of
consciousness, which is lasting, but this is still not the Divine
State of
Consciousness, which the Perfect Ones possess, and they bestow it on
those
who deserve it.
>
> Is it possible to consider that the ultimate end to living is
becoming
> WISE ?
**It might be; but the wise man will seek to serve the Divine Cause.


>
> And would that not be a realization of the HIGHER SELF in each one
of
> us -- and perceiving that this HIGHER SELF of ours ( or rather it
is
> OURSELVES) -- is as a "drop" in the Spiritual Ocean.

**This sounds very much so like what we have been learning from our
Master.
>
> So we never die. We can live according to the law of the Universe
in
> harmony within all other immortals who are our "brothers."

**There is only one birth, which is the *becoming* of individual drop
soul,
and there is only one death, the death of limited individuality.
>
> Here is a definition of "Kamadeva" The pure "god" of mercy as given
> in the THEOSOPHICAL GLOSSARY , pp. 170-1, in which the definition
is
> (in part): "...the first conscious, all-embracing desire for
> universal good, love, and for all that lives and feels, needs help
and
> kindness, the first feeling of infinite tender compassion and mercy
> that arose in the consciousness of the creative ONE FORCE, as soon
as
> it came into life and being as a ray from the ABSOLUTE."
>
> This seems to be one of the few, truly inspiring and graphic
pictures
> of the origins and purpose of all evolution.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Dallas

**An excellent book on this topic, The Divine Theme, is the book God
Speaks
by Meher Baba. It is not easy, but written in good English, and its
phrases
are very clear. I am not soliciting anything, it is simply a very good
book.
You can obtain it through Sheriar Press. See web page below.

http://www.sheriarfoundation.org/
http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/creation.htm (The Theme of
Creation)
http://www.meherbaba.com/DivineTheme.htm






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