Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00636)

Dear Dallas, I appreciate you deep knowledge. I included more comments which
convey my Master's views on these topics. Etzion

> Dec. 20 2002
>
> Dear Friends:
>
> My not take the common sense point of view.
>
> We know we exist. REALITY ONE.
>
> We know we direct the body so we are NOT the body alone, although we
> live in it. When the body sleeps, WE go elsewhere, and, we return
> to the BODY when it has rested. REALITY TWO.

**In this regard, it was said that we go to the Beyond Beyond State -
Paratpar Parabrahama - where God is not conscious of His Godhood. Sound
sleep state.

>
> We cannot attach to our selves, as a CONSCIOUSNESS any material
> attributes or description. Yet WE ARE.
>
> We feel emotions, and we desire sensations and the objects that seem
> to make our sensations pleasant. We fear accidents and reverses of
> fortune, pain, suffering, etc... REALITY THREE
>
> We are essentially THINKERS. We are able to review the past (fully or
> partially) of our life and actions. We are able to remember and from
> that, to anticipate a number of futures. The imagination is the
> "king" faculty. Using that we see how the imposition of certain
> factors and actions on the present can lead to a future we have
> selected, Apparently each of us possesses a creative WILL. REALITY
> FOUR.

**We think because we were granted minds, which started as a very faint
state of consciousness, already from the stone state, and very slowly,
through the acquiring of impressions, we develop the mind into the human
state, which thinks freely. But *WE*, are not the thinker. We have a
thinking mechanism.

>
> The things, plus or minus, that shape our environment (body, feelings,
> mind, and their conditions past, present and future) make us aware
> that we, as a CONSCIOUSNESS, as a MIND, may have lived before in other
> bodies.
> Reincarnation as a possibility, past and future ought to be
> recognized. REALITY FIVE.

**The mind with its accumulated impressions, forces the individual drop soul
to keep on incarnating, in order to exhaust all these impressions. But the
very fact of exhausting impressions, new ones are being formed, so the
process is actually infinite. The only way to get out of this viscious
cycle, is the Grace of the Perfect Master.

>
> Another bolster to this argument and speculation, is the fact that the
> Universe we live in seems to run according to LAWS. The whole area of
> science is found to be based on the observation of Laws, the tracing
> of their operations, the repetitiveness of actions, the responses to
> similar stimuli, reagents, conditions, etc... The whole science of
> our technological and ecological life (not to mention our well-being
> in other ways) depends on the faithful repetition of results,
> dependent on the input of certain conditions. Nature, as a whole,
> responds predictably. REALITY SIX.
>
> Why would the human being be omitted from such a generality ? Why
> should they alone be lawless?
>
> Why are ethics, morals, correct behaviour, virtues subjects to be
> avoided ? Why should they not be thoroughly investigated to see if
> there is any LAW operating there ? If we study several religions we
> find that the ethics and morals of individual and community behaviour
> is emphasized. In fact there is a remarkable similarity found when
> they are compared. How does that happen ?

**It is all due to the work of the Perfect Masters, who actually form the
spiritual government on Earth. They work like one body, trying to install in
our brains the fundamentals of true spirituality, which is the art of wiping
out of these impressions, which enslave the soul. They gave all these Laws,
in order that we will understand how the Divine Mechanism is operating, in
order to reduce suffering.


>
> Would it be wrong to consider the human being as a pupil in a vast
> school where learning is constantly a part of its life?

**As long as the drop soul doesn't enter a path of spiritual practice under
the supervision of the Wise Ones, he is bound to be tossed in the winds of
life.
>
> Would we be wrong to consider that the CONSCIOUSNESS of each human is
> immortal and always lives although as time passes it uses many bodies?

**What i understood is that the process of evolution created a state of
consciousness, which is lasting, but this is still not the Divine State of
Consciousness, which the Perfect Ones possess, and they bestow it on those
who deserve it.
>
> Is it possible to consider that the ultimate end to living is becoming
> WISE ?
**It might be; but the wise man will seek to serve the Divine Cause.


>
> And would that not be a realization of the HIGHER SELF in each one of
> us -- and perceiving that this HIGHER SELF of ours ( or rather it is
> OURSELVES) -- is as a "drop" in the Spiritual Ocean.

**This sounds very much so like what we have been learning from our Master.
>
> So we never die. We can live according to the law of the Universe in
> harmony within all other immortals who are our "brothers."

**There is only one birth, which is the *becoming* of individual drop soul,
and there is only one death, the death of limited individuality.
>
> Here is a definition of "Kamadeva" The pure "god" of mercy as given
> in the THEOSOPHICAL GLOSSARY , pp. 170-1, in which the definition is
> (in part): "...the first conscious, all-embracing desire for
> universal good, love, and for all that lives and feels, needs help and
> kindness, the first feeling of infinite tender compassion and mercy
> that arose in the consciousness of the creative ONE FORCE, as soon as
> it came into life and being as a ray from the ABSOLUTE."
>
> This seems to be one of the few, truly inspiring and graphic pictures
> of the origins and purpose of all evolution.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Dallas

**An excellent book on this topic, The Divine Theme, is the book God Speaks
by Meher Baba. It is not easy, but written in good English, and its phrases
are very clear. I am not soliciting anything, it is simply a very good book.
You can obtain it through Sheriar Press. See web page below.

http://www.sheriarfoundation.org/
http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/creation.htm (The Theme of
Creation)
http://www.meherbaba.com/DivineTheme.htm