Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00548)

A few years ago Theosophy had about 5,000 adherents in the US, a 
country with 270,000,000 people in it. It may have declined since 
then. Some of its followers have delusions of grandeur, but the 
statistical facts are as stated. I think it is very unfortuhate, but 
the fact is Theosophy is not a major force in the world, or even a 
minor one. Between now and mid-century we will be in that portion of 
the cycle in which groups like Theosophy tend to decline and 
orthodocies of various sorts tend to rise.

As for Freud, that humbug is in decline and is expected by those who 
predict trends in the world psychological to become more and more 
irrelevant as time goes on. Having met several peopple who have been 
defrauded by psychoanalysts, I consider the demise of their 
profession to be an excellent outcome.

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "wry" <wry1111@e...> wrote:
> This is part two of my explanation. Paul has said, "it does not 
appear that anyone is interested enough in Theosophy to want to take 
it over, undermine it, infiltrate it, etc." I would agree with this, 
except possibly with the undermine it part, and also with some other 
comments in your message, along the same line. Brian was interested. 
Sometimes people get caught up in material and sucked into it. In the 
bulletin board format, which is my special subject of study, 
everything can become greatly exaggerated, for several different 
reasons, which I will go into sometime, maybe. If you are on a list 
writing messages everyday about a subject and defending your position 
etc., it can sort of take on a life of its own. (By the way, has it 
ever occurred to you that this is what happened with people accusing 
you, it sort of took on a life of its own, not as with Brian, who was 
probably psychologically identified, but in a physical sense,and 
though this idea may seem far fetched, there is a certain interesting 
biologist (ask Leon) who has presented a theory called "morphic 
resonance" which may in some ways support this idea).
> 
> To continue, if you will read post 9581. by Bhakti, written on 
December 10th, you will find, nine paragraphs from the end, certain 
material, which indicates that one person, at least, and actually 
two, if we include Brian, who brought Bhakti to these boards, believe 
that Theosophy has had an extremely detrimental effect on western 
society. I have already replied to this message in post 9590 ("To 
Bhakti"). He makes an interesting case for his hypothesis, and I 
would even agree, but it is all skewed, as I said in my message, as 
he does not mention the beneficial effects of the influence of 
Krishnamurti, which also came out of this. I also suggested that "the 
die is cast" regarding Theosophy and that is is probably a movement 
that has already fruited. It is sort of poring from the empty into 
the void to try to undermine it now. In other instances, such as 
Jeffrey Masson, a Gurdjieffian named Peter Swales and many others 
attempting to strike a blow to Freudian Psychology, it is an entirely 
different story, as Freudian (and Jungian) psychology is continuing 
to have a pervasive and negative influence upon society, and this 
would be an interesting subject for someone to write a book about, as 
ultimately, the models of psychology are both authoritarian and 
IDEALISTIC, and will not lead to the solving of the problems of 
humanity, but are making things much worse than they already are.
> 
> Anyway, if someone, such as Brian/Bridgitte (because he is so 
identified) perceives that the movement is at present time much more 
influential than it actually is, he would have a legitimate reason to 
try to undermine it. And now we come to Bridgitte's pseudonym, which 
is very interesting, and is a little bit of the circumstantial 
evidence, which will begin to explain how I came to make the error I 
did about you, Paul, which I hope you will forgive me for. I will 
continue this in part 3. Sincerely, Wry
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