Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00241)

wry- My point was clear and not really a misappropriation of Buddhism, or 
Theosophy. Theosophically, all that is not the ONE can be considered maya. I 
was useing the Doctrine of Dependent Origination to show a possible 
perspective for how to think of maya in relation to that which is not bound 
up in differentiation.
Steve L.






> From: "wry" <wry1111@earthlink.net>
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> To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Maya and Beyond
> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 21:53:44 -0800
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Levey" <levey_steven@hotmail.com>
> To: "theos talk" <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 5:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Maya and Beyond
>
> > Theosophically, maya, similarly to Buddhist perspective, is an adjective
> which describes all that is "dependent". Therefore only the ONE (First
> Cause, Absolute, Ain Soph) is real and not dependent.
>
> Hi.This is Wry. It is great that you are interested in Buddhism. However,
> Buddhism teaches that EVERYTHING is interdependent and dependently
> originated; therefore there is no "ONE (First Cause)" and nothing that is
> not interdependent and dependently originated. The idea of a primal cause,
> either in capital letters or lower case, is contrary to the teaching of
> Buddhism. Morever the belief in a primal or first cause is considered to be
> a manifestation of the very ignorance (wrong view) which leads to great
> human suffering. I am not here to argue or belabor the truth or not truth 
> of
> this point with you or anyone, but simply to point out what Buddhism
> teaches. This is a key point as the whole religion is structered around it.
>
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> > This sense of dependence is an aspect of the Doctrine of "Dependent
> Origination" in Buddhism. It refers to all that is not self-sustaining or
> self-born.>
>
> Buddhism teaches that there is NO self that is 'self-sustaining and
> self-born." Though this concept is in direct contradiction to the teaching
> of all Buddhism, even the lesser vehicle (though one "lower" school 
> teaches,
> oddly, that there is a self of phenomena but not of people), Buddhism is
> very tolerant of non-buddhist world views as it is said that there are
> different kinds of religion for people who are at different stages of
> development. Hope this clarifies a little. Sincerely, Wry
>
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