Theos-Talk Archives (December 2002 Message tt00050)

Hi all of you,

Thanks for your email Caldwell.
And also this link from your website, which certainly is interesting:
http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/contradictionslatermessengers.htm

Here is a short answer - taken from the link
(http://home19.inet.tele.dk/global-theosophy/BLAVATSK.HTM) mentioned below
by D. Caldwell:
"As long as most students can't discriminate between a text from a real
Master and a text from a bad fallen disciple - more than they can - the
difference between a high mass of the orthodox or a bingo competition - then
the content of the books should be, what is important for a student.

One should - of course NOT - take the words and writings of every - claimed
theosophical channel, claimed theosophical initiate, claimed theosophical
overshadowed, or every claimed theosophical contact of the Masters - for -
BEING, - what they are saying, just like that - and without any further
notice. That would be stupid.
The wise theosophists are critical and act critical in a wise manner. And
they do like HPB says: we cull the good we find in each. - This is it.
But different branches of Theosophy will come into existence that seems hard
to avoid in these days. "

The above also goes - when referring to - ANY - of the Mahatma letters !
Let us avoid fanatic behavior.

The students of today are offered a whole lot of books, spiritual doctrines
and teachings.
And they most often do like 'painted' below-
Quoting:

"The teacher offers herself or himself by he's or hers presence. Those who
are interested have to offer themselves as students.
The actual step - to become a student is difficult to make, even so if the
student believes that he or she really want to learn, - because the student
has to fight with different kinds of psychological emotional or mental
blockages - especially fear, doubt, uncertainty, and ignorance. Said with
psychological ulterior motive - the student wants to learn, but doesn't want
to give. If the student doesn't want to give the teacher his or hers
attention, then the student won't be able to learn.
The more down to earth person's minds are these days - in many ways today
very unstable and capricious. He or she maybe one day want to dabble into
Spiritual Development (for instance a version of Raja-yoga) and esoterical
teachings, - and then the next day - going out with friends getting stoned
in alcohol - is highest on the agenda. And then after a couple of weeks
Spiritual development is an important again - at least a little.
And most people in these days have a good deal of build in opposition, which
has to be overcome - before the step can be taken wholly and totally.
It may be that the Seeker has some background of self-development. Sometimes
this can be a drawback, because it can make him or her think that he/she
knows more than he/she does. This is showing his/hers lack of humility, and
lack of recognition of how much one really doesn't know anything about.
In the teachers (here a male) effort to give all he can to the disciple, the
teacher must reveal himself and his teaching little by little. If he where
to give his full concentration at too early a stage, the disciple would not
be able to absorb the teachings. Different aspects of the teacher are seen
at different times. Some people even think that they see actual faults in
the teacher. These strangely enough, are generally reflections of the faults
of the student, which are coming to the surface.
It is in order to place the disciple in a condition in which she/he can
become accessible to the understanding of truth, by an inner sense, that the
teacher takes on the burden of the student. He may have to ask for the
sacrifice of things, which the student prizes the most. This often from good
reasons, which will be explained, when time is right.
When deprived of the teacher, the student will often be guided by his/hers
own lower personality ("the commanding self"). A student at such a stage may
attach to any centre or organisation of attraction, which offers Spiritual
Development, and which the student finds exciting and interesting etc. This
is because the student is at a stage where Spiritual Organisations has
value - or that which the student thinks is Spiritual organisations, - but
the student hasn't yet developed his/hers sense of discrimination.
This situation may make the half-mature disciple proud, and she/he may set
himself/herself up as a teacher, especially if the teacher has given him/her
some authority. This sort of development is responsible for the
fragmentation of true teachings, and their absorption by pseudo-Theosophical
organisations, certain New Age Organisations or the like."
(http://home19.inet.tele.dk/global-theosophy/BLAVATSK.HTM)

"But also very often - the place, the organisation and the method one as a
newcomer or lesser experienced Seeker wants or thinks is the best for
oneself and perhaps even others - is really not so.
They - the newcomers - have a tendency - because of a still remaining
egoistic fragment in their character - to join those organisations, follow
those methods, which they them selves feel comfortable about - and that with
rather egoistical motives, whether they are conscious of it or not.
A major reason is often that, - what - one really needs to learn - one
really doesn't know much about. Only the initiate of the higher level
knows - really knows.
These newcomers are often not aware of, that there are many paths within the
teachings of Theosophy. (See "The Secret Doctrine", II, p.191, on the
paths)."
(http://home19.inet.tele.dk/global-theosophy/BLAVATSK.HTM)




from
M. Sufilight with peace on Earth...





----- Original Message -----
From: <info@blavatskyarchives.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 6:33 PM
Subject: Theos-World The Pseudo-Theosophy of Alice A. Bailey?


> It has been contended by many students of H.P. Blavatsky that Alice
> A. Bailey's teachings are "pseudo-Theosophy."
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> See the following two essays:
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> (1) "Theosophy's Shadow: [A Critical Look at the Claims and
> Teachings of Alice A. Bailey]"
> by Nicholas Weeks
> http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/baileyal.htm
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> (2) "The Pseudo-Occultism of Mrs. A. Bailey"
> by Alice Leighton Cleather and Basil Crump
> http://users.aol.com/uniwldarts/uniworld.artisans.guild/HPBvsAB.html
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> For a differing point of view, see the following essays:
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> (3) "Alice A. Bailey, H.P. Blavatsky and Helena Roerich: Cleavages
> between the followers of three traditions: The Theosophical Society,
> The Arcane School, The Agni Yoga Society"
> by Phillip Lindsay
> http://www.esotericastrologer.org/AABHPBHR.htm
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> See especially:
> "Refutation of Nicholas Weeks' article 'Theosophy's Shadow'"
> by Phillip Lindsay
> http://www.esotericastrologer.org/AABHPBHR.htm#TSNW
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> (4) "H. P. Blavatsky versus Alice A. Bailey"
> by Morten Sufilight
> http://home19.inet.tele.dk/global-theosophy/BLAVATSK.HTM
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> As one reads the above essays, one might also take into consideration
> what is written in an essay titled:
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> "Madame Blavatsky and the Latter-Day Messengers of the Masters"
> compiled by Terry Hobbes
> http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/contradictionslatermessengers.htm
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> Daniel H. Caldwell
> BLAVATSKY ARCHIVES
> http://hpb.cc
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