Theos-Talk Archives (November 2002 Message tt00590)

In a message dated 11/14/02 3:17:46 PM, bhakti.eohn@verizon.net writes:

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>AS LONG AS THE RACISM IN THE WRITINGS IS BEING DENIED AND CONTINUES 
>TO HAVE A PATHOLOGICAL EFFECT ON THE HUMAN RACE, THEN SOMEONE WILL 
>HAVE TO KEEP POINTING THIS OUT. 
>LET THE DEFENDERS OF HPB HELP TO REMOVE THE THORN FROM HUMANITY'S 
>FLESH, AND PEOPLE WILL STOP NEEDING TO DO WHAT BRIAN AND I ARE 
>DOING. THE WRITINGS ARE STILL A PRIMARY SOURCE FOR RACISTS WORLD 
>WIDE, AND NO MATTER HOW BENEVOLENT THE MEMBERS ON THIS SITE ARE, THAT 
>FACT IS NOT CHANGED. FOR THEOSOPHISTS TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THIS 
>PATHOLOGICAL RACE THEORY IS NAIVE AND SOCIALLY IRRESPONSIBLE AT 
>BEST. THE WHOLE ROOT-RACES IDEA IS RACIST. IT HAS HAD A PROFOUNDLY 
>DESTRUCTIVE EFFECT IN HUMAN EXPERIANCE, AND TO DENY THIS IS SIMPLY 
>STICKING YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND. IT DOES NOTHING TO REDEEM HPB. I AM 
>NOT ACCUZING HER OF THE HOLOCAUST ! I DON'T THINK SHE MASTER-MINDED 
>THE SINHALESE GENOCIDAL CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE TAMIL BLACKS IN SRI 
>LANKA ! BUT THE NATURE OF IDEAS IS THAT WHEN THEY GET TURNED LOOSE 
>IN THE WORLD, THEY FLOW LIKE MOLTEN LEAD TO THE LOWEST POINTS AND 
>SETTLE THERE. 
>
>PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEY DO WITH INFORMATION. IF IDEAS 
>WORK THEIR WAY OUT THROUGH HUMAN EXPERIANCE MALEVOLENTLY, THEN THOSE 
>IDEAS NEED TO BE CLOSELY EXAMINED AND CORRECTED IF POSSIBLE. 

Dear Swami BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI

Yes, I agree that there are connotations in the Secret Doctrine that can be 
interpreted as racist and reflect the common ideas of racial differences in 
the 19th Century. But what has that got to do with the Seven Rounds and 
Seven Root Race concept? (It's unfortunate that the word "Race" had to be 
used in this context.) But, as far as convinced theosophists are concerned, 
such as those advanced student/teachers on this forum, this seven times seven 
progressive system of planetary and human evolution is entirely consistent 
with the involutional and evolutionary processes of Cosmogenesis and 
Anthropogenesis as written in the Book of Dzyan (from the Book of the Golden 
Precepts of the Kiu-ti), which, properly understood and intuitively grasped, 
is the only way the universe, the planetary system, and the human kingdom, as 
well as the other three kingdoms of nature, could have come into existence 
and evolved to the states they are in now. Racial discrimination between 
those of different skin color or other physical characteristics, culture, 
country of origin, etc., have nothing to do with this theory, but is a 
problem solely of man's own selfishness, greeds, and other ethnic and 
cultural sensibilities.

This genetic process doesn't have a gap or loose end in it, starting from the 
zero-point singularity of the absolute primal beginning, and sliding down the 
slope of involution and climbing up the ladder of evolution. To deny it 
would reach down to the core of the theosophical teachings and negate the 
entire scientifically logical structure upon which it stands. 

Since all true theosophists cannot be racists in the contemporary sense of the
term, what good does it do for you or Brian to try to change our minds about 
the truths of theosophy, and hammer us with the most transparent propaganda 
in a futile attempt to falsify theosophy and denigrate HPB? 

You will never with your weak faith based theologies, that have no real 
scientifically consistent basis of Cosmogenesis or Anthropogenesis, break 
through this barrier between us -- due to our contradictory ideas and thought 
processes... And, especially, with your and Brian/Bridgitte's use of 
consistently faulty reasoned propaganda techniques. 

I, for one, have no argument with your belief in a personal God, if such 
belief will lead to the same goals of universal brotherhood and peace on 
Earth, that is the aim of theosophy. But, that doesn't mean that we have to 
believe in or worship such a personal God -- who can give us nothing that we 
don't already have. However, that doesn't prevent any theosophist from 
believing in a universal and impersonal consciousness or Higher Self, of 
which their individual higher egos, their "I am I," or self consciousness, is 
an integral ray -- that they can call "God" or any other name they choose. 
In that sense, we are our own creators, and owe our allegiance to no thing or 
person other than our own Higher Self... Which, in its moral and ethical 
basis, our conscience, is equivalent to Krishna's or God's consciousness... 
And, is Impersonal, since it cannot belong to, and can have no interest in 
any particular individual human being or separate personality... Except, 
through those great teachers on this mundane plane of existence, from Krishna 
to Jesus to HPB, and even yourself, who chose that role for themselves -- to 
help and teach those of 'like" mind. 

The only way you could "erase racism" from those that misinterpret and misuse 
the teachings of HPB for that purpose, then, would be to burn all her (and 
her disciples') books, and kill all the theosophical student/teachers who 
promulgate their teachings. I don't think you would be willing to go to that 
extreme. But, even if you did, that would change or erase nothing. And, 
talking to convinced theosophists (who base their carefully considered 
philosophical and religious understanding, rather than on blind faith, on 
logically and scientifically consistent fundamental principles which you 
cannot refute) about changing their teachings -- will also get you nowhere, 
and waste your energy (which might be better spent on teaching your disciples 
to be tolerant and understanding of other peoples thoughts and ideas about 
how, and on what basis, they approach God consciousness or Self realization).

With respect to your honorable Self,

Chiam Eleazer Ben Mosher Kohane
/ a.k.a. Leonardo Hermes Mason 
/ a.k.a. Leon H. Maurer