Theos-Talk Archives (November 2002 Message tt00154)

Hello, BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI, WELCOME TO THEOS WORLD.
IT SEEMS IGNORANCE IS OUR (HUMANITIES) GREATEST ENEMY.
THE GREATEST GIFT CAN BE POISON.
MEDICAL PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FASCINATED BY POISONS IN THAT SO MANY CURES 
HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THE DISCOVERIES OF THE ROOT OF EACH POISON THEREBY 
EFFECTING A CURE.
FOR EXAMPLE, IT SEEMS THAT IODINE TAKEN INTERNALLY CAN DO GREAT DAMAGE YET 
WHEN APPLIED TO AN EXTERIOR CUT OR BRUISE CAN AID IN A HEALTHY RECOVERY AND 
BE A BLESSING. I HOPE WE'RE ALL LOOKING FOR A HEALTHY RECOVERY AND MANY 
BLESSINGS.
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In a message dated 11/8/02 11:07:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
bhakti.eohn@verizon.net writes:

> Subj: Theos-World BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI USES ALL CAPS
> Date: 11/8/02 11:07:21 PM Eastern Standard Time
> From: bhakti.eohn@verizon.net (Bhakti Ananda Goswami)
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Bhakti Ananda Goswami 
> Subject: MY POST TO THEOS-TALK EGROUP
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>  
> GREETINGS DEAR FELLOW RESPECTERS OF TRUTH AND VIRTUE, 
>  
> PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESPECTFUL OBEISANCES.
>  
> MY NAME IS BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI, AND I AM A SANNYASI AND SHIKSHA 
> (INSTRUCTING) MASTER IN THE ANCIENT AND VENERABLE BRAHMA-MADHVA-
> GAUDIYA LINEAGE OF VAISHNAVISM. I HAVE ALSO HAD EXTENSIVE EXPERIANCE 
> WITH SHAIVA, SHAKTI, BUDDHIST AND OTHER TRADITIONS. I HAVE BEEN 
> INVOLVED IN COMPARATIVE RELIGION STUDIES AND INTERFAITH MINISTRIES 
> FOR 35 YEARS, AND HAVE BEEN DOING POST-GRADUATE LEVEL QUALITY 
> INTERDISCIPLINARY RESEARCH ON THE HISTORY OF RELIGION FOR AT LEAST 25 
> OF THOSE YEARS. I SUCCESSFULLY DELIVERED THE ORAL PRESENTATION OF MY 
> TWO YEAR MASTER'S DEGREE THESIS, BUT NEVER PUBLISHED MY THESIS OR 
> RECEIVED MY DEGREE, BECAUSE I HAD TO GO INTO A NURSING HOME ON A 
> RESPIRATOR, DUE TO POST-POLIO SYNDROME BREATHING MUSCLE PARALYSIS, 
> BEFORE I COULD FINISH MY MASTER'S DEGREE PROJECT.  
>  
>  
> AT PRESENT I AM BED-RIDDEN MOST OF THE TIME. MY COMPUTER IS 
> INSTALLED OVER MY BED, AND I TYPE IN ALL CAPS, BECAUSE THESE ARE WHAT 
> ARE EASIEST FOR ME TO SEE WHEN I AM UNABLE TO SIT UP. MANY COMPUTER 
> USERS HAVE DIFFICULTY SEEING THEIR MONITORS. WHEN PERSONS SUCH AS 
> MYSELF USE ALL CAPS, PLEASE DON'T ALSWAYS ASSUME THAT IT IS BECAUSE 
> WE ARE RUDE AND SHOUTING. IT IS NOT A CHOICE, BUT A REQUIRED 
> AUSTERITY.  
>  
>  
> WITH MY PERMISSION, BRIAN HAS EXCERPTED AND POSTED SOME OF MY PRIVATE 
> LETTERS TO THIS FORUM. BRIAN HAS NOT BEEN SHOUTING AT ANYONE. I HAVE 
> NOT BEEN POSTING MYSELF, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN COMBATING 
> RACIST ARYANISTS GLOBALLY, AND AS A RESULT HAVE RECEIVED NUMEROUS 
> DEATH THREATS AND ACTUAL ATTACKS FROM THEM. SO I NO LONGER LIKE TO 
> EXPOSE MYSELF TO ARYANIST FANATICISM OF ANY KIND, ANY MORE THAN 
> NECCESSARY. THUS, BRIAN WAS POSTING ANONYMOUSLY AS A COURTESY FOR 
> ME. 
>  
> EVEN THOUGH I AM SURE NONE OF YOU ARE VIOLENT RACISTS, OF THE KIND 
> THAT I HAVE BEEN COMBATING, IT SEEMS PROBABLE TO ME THAT YOU DON'T 
> REALIZE HOW ARYOSOPHISM IS FOUNDATIONAL TO THE THOUGHT SYSTEMS OF THE 
> RACIST GROUPS I HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH IN MY WORK. I HAVE EXPERIANCED 
> THE WORST OF THE OUT-COMES OF ARYOSOPHISM, BECAUSE IN MY WORK I HAVE 
> COMBATED THE WORST KIND OF RACIST FANATICS FOR OVER 30 YEARS. BECAUSE 
> OF THIS, I GENERALLY TO NOT LIKE TO READ T SOCIETY ATTEMPTS TO DENY 
> THE INFLUENCE OF TS RELATED ARYOSOPHISM ON GLOBAL HISTORY. WHETHER 
> THEY ARE HINDU, JAPANESE, EUROPEAN, SRI LANKAN, AMERICAN OR OTHER 
> ARYANIST RACISTS, THEY ARE TIED TOGETHER BY THE SAME GENERAL BELIEF-
> SYSTEMS, WITH ELEMENTS OF TS RELATED ARYOSOPHISM IN THEM. 
>  
> MY OPINION IS THAT HPB HAD A BENEVOLENT BUT RACIST ATTITUDE TOWARDS 
> BLACKS, AND WAS ANTI-SEMITIC AND ANTI-CATHOLIC. SHE DID NOT 
> ANTICIPATE OR INTEND THAT HER SCIENTISTIC ROOT-RACES IDEAS WOULD END- 
> UP FORMING THE BEDROCK OF SOME VERY MALEVOLENT THOUGHT-SYSTEMS. NOT 
> WANTING TO GET INTO AN ARGUMENT WITH THEOSOPHISTS ABOUT THE FACT OF 
> HER RACIST INFLUENCE, I HAVE NOT POSTED TO ANY THEOSOPHICAL SITES.  
> MY PRIVATE CORRESPONDANCE WITH BRIAN (AND IT IS PROPER TO ADDRESS A 
> PERSON AS THEY WISH), HAS NOT BEEN MEANT TO INSULT OR OFFEND ANY 
> INDIVIDUAL THEOSOPHISTS, BUT RATHER TO EXPRESS MY THINKING ON THE 
> MAJOR ISSUES THEMSELVES. 
>  
> SINCE I HAVE BECOME INVOLVED IN THIS FORUM, AND DON'T WANT BRIAN TO 
> BE ERRONEOUSLY ACCUSED OF SHOUTING IN CAPS AT YOU ALL, I AM 
> INTRODUCING MYSELF. I HAVE HUNDREDS OF STUDENTS AND FRIENDS WRITING 
> TO ME THAT I OWE LETTERS TO, AND MANY OTHER PRESSING DUTIES TO ATTEND 
> TO, SO I CANNOT, WITH MY PHYSICAL LIMITATIONS, GET INTO ANY HEATED 
> EXCHANGES ON THIS FORUM. STILL,I WILL TRY TO WRITE SOMETHING 
> REGARDING MY PERSPECTIVE ON THE MAHATMA LETTERS FOR POSTING HERE 
> SOON.  
>  
> BEST WISHES,
>  
> HH TRIDANDI SANNYASI BHAKTI ANANDA GOSWAMI MAHARAJA
>  
> BRAHMA-MADHVA-GAUDIYA SAMPRADAYA OF VAISHNAVISM
>  
> INTERFAITH COMMITTEE ORGANIZER, WORLD VAISHNAVA ORGANIZATION, 
> VRINDAVANA INDIA. 
>  
>  
> --- In theos-talk@y..., "Daniel H. Caldwell" <comments@b...> wrote:
> > Dear Brian/Brigitte,
> > 
> > If you want many people to continue reading your messages, I would 
> > suggest that you do NOT use all caps. Using all caps makes it 
> > difficult for most people to read the text.
> > 
> > What would Paul Johnson say if he knew what you were doing! :)
> > 
> > Daniel
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@y..., "brianmuehlbach" <brianmuehlbach@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > THE HARE BROTHERS BOOK IS A FIRST ATTEMPT AND EVEN THERE 
> > > THEOSOPHISTS DID NO REBUT ALL THE POINTS, JUST SOME)MORE 
> > > PORTANT FOR TODAY IS, AND THE QUESTION FOR CALDWELL TO 
> > > SHOW PROOF IF HE IS INDEED EXPERT IN THE FIELD. TO BESIDES THE 
> > > HARES QUIRKIES ABOUT FRANCE LANGUAGE EXPRESSIONS AND 
> > > AMERICAN SLANG IN THE LETTERS THAT STEVE MENTIONS AS 
> > > BLAVATSKY'S "TUMBNAIL THAT IS ALL OVEER THE PLACE" THE FACT 
> > > REMAINS ALSO
> > > THAT THERE IS NOTHING IN THOSE LETTERS, WHICH COULD NOT 
> > > HAVE BEEN PENNED BY HPB AND HER EDUCATED COHORTS. NOTHING.  
> > > THE 'WISDOM' IN THEM IS NOT EVIDENCE OF A SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE 
> > > AND VISION, POSSESSED AND SEEN BY ANCIENT BEINGS OR AGELESS 
> > > BEINGS OUTSIDE OF TIME. IT IS THE INFORMATION / KNOWLEDGE 
> > > BASE OF PERSONS WITH A DISTINCT TIME-LIMITED FRAME OF 
> > > REFERENCE. PROJECTING THEIR VICTORIAN ERA ESOTERIC WORLD-
> > > VIEW BACK ONTO THE HISTORY OF THOUGHT, THE AUTHORS APPEAR 
> > > TO BE WOEFULLY DEFICIENT IN UNDERSTANDING THEIR 'OWN' SO-
> > > CALLED INDIAN OR TIBETAN, WTEVER, SACRED TRADITIONS. THE 
> > > SPECULATIONS OF THE SO-CALLED MASTERS, ABOUT ANCIENT 
> > > EGYPTIAN AND INDIAN THOUGHT, WERE QUITE LIMITED TO THE 
> > > INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO HPB AND FRIENDS. THEIR OWN 
> > > ESOTERIC STUDIES IN ROSICRUCIANISM, MASONRY AND SPIRITISM 
> > > ETC. AND WIDE READING IN RELIGION, HISTORY, PHILOSOPHY AND THE 
> > > SCIENCE OF THEIR DAY, WAS ENOUGH TO FORM THE KNOWLEDGE-
> > > BASE EVIDENT IN ALL OF THE MAHATMA LETTERS AND HPB'S BOOKS.   
> > > BEYOND THIS INFORMATION, THERE IS NOTHING, NOTHING THERE. 
> > >  
> > > THEY WERE IN A SENSE MASTERS OF WHATEVER IT WAS THAT HBP 
> > > AND FRIENDS HAD MASTERED.....THE WESTERN ESOTERIC 'WISDOM' 
> > > OF THEIR TIME. HOWEVER THEY WERE RANK NEOPHYTES WHEN IT 
> > > CAME TO MANY THINGS THAT THE MAHATMAS' CLAIMED MASTERY 
> > > OF. THUS THE 'MASTERS' SHOULD BE TESTED ON THESE THINGS.  
> > > THEY MADE THE CLAIM OF MASTERY, LET THEM EXPLAIN THEMSELVES 
> > > DANIEL CALWELL BY PROVIDING TEXTUAL EXAMPLES TO SHOW THIS.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > THEY WERE IN A SENSE MASTERS OF WHATEVER IT WAS THAT HBP 
> > > AND FRIENDS HAD MASTERED.....THE WESTERN ESOTERIC 'WISDOM' 
> > > OF THEIR TIME. HOWEVER THEY WERE RANK NEOPHYTES WHEN IT 
> > > CAME TO MANY THINGS THAT THE MAHATMAS' CLAIMED MASTERY 
> > > OF. THUS THE 'MASTERS' SHOULD BE TESTED ON THESE THINGS.  
> > > THEY MADE THE CLAIM OF MASTERY.
> > > 
> > > AFTER I MADE THE HARE BROTHER REMARK STEVE MENTIONED THAT 
> > > BLAVATSKY'S "TUMBNAIL" STEVE WROTE IS ALL OVE R THE PLACE.  
> > > THE NEXT STEP HOWEVER NOW REALLY SHOULD BE AS STEVE NEXT 
> > > ALSO WROTE :""There is still one challlenge - more 
> > > difficult than collecting preicpitaion stories - which has not 
> been 
> > dealt 
> > > with: how to argue from an unbiased perspective that the mahatma 
> > > letters did contain the actual thoughts of the mahatmas and not 
> > those of 
> > > the amanuensis chelas who produced them?"
> > > 
> > > DOUBTFULL DANIEL C. CALDWELL IS CAPABLE EVER REPONDING TO 
> > > THIS CHALLENGE. (I AM PLACING THE ABOVE ON MY WEB SITE)
> > >  
> > http://mailbox.univie.ac.at/~muehle=
> > > b9
> > > 
> > > --- In theos-talk@y..., "Daniel H. Caldwell" <comments@b...>
> > wrote:…
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