Theos-Talk Archives (September 2002 Message tt00121)

In a message dated 09/18/02 3:19:19 AM, wry1111@earthlink.net writes:

>In response to the question, "And where do those atoms and molecules and
>INTELLIGENCE come from?" 
>To stay with an unanswered question is very inspirational.
>Questioning can open a certain doorway that nothing else can..I have much
>appreciated your message, and especially that you have used your own words
>and not the words of others to attempt to talk about something that is
>interesting and engaging to you. This is the quality of work that can help
>many people, as everything needs to be formulated and reformulated again
>and again according to ever changing conditions. This way learning does
>not crystallize into dogma and everything is infinitely new and the perfume
>of the early morning, when the dew is still on the flowers, is not lost
>to us. So, in this vein, I would like to end with a question of my own,
>"Is wonder a material or immaterial?" Wry

When you can pick up your "wonder" and toss it to me -- then, you can be sure 
it's material. But, if you can't, then it's immaterial. In that case, hang 
on to it for yourself, while I go into the universal mind and wonder about 
the question asked. When I get the answer, you can be sure I'll let you know 
how I got it so you can stop wondering. But, then again, those answers are 
immaterial, too, and you might not be able to catch and hold on to them. 

But, I think you already know that everything comes from one thing, and; 
there's no such things as emptiness without fullness, fullness without 
emptiness, one without many, or many without one... So, why wonder about it? 
Didn't the Buddha say, "The answer is always in the question, and all one has 
to do is 'leap' high enough over their own barriers to see it?" Could those 
barriers be the inability or unwillingness to give up the ignorant bliss of 
"wonder" itself? Wry not? 

But then, on the other hand, if one can't leap high enough, it's an easy 
matter to backtrack step by step from the material universe of atoms, 
molecules and intelligence to their fundamental principles and immaterial 
origins, and then forward track the same number of steps from the 
fundamentals to the material universe -- and see if these tracks meet in the 
middle. If not, go back and do it again -- until you get it. 

Best wishes,

Leon(ardo)