Theos-Talk Archives (September 2002 Message tt00016)

Hi all of you,

I have difficulties agreeing with you on that Leon.

Leon wrote:
"Without that knowledge and understanding, other that the possible 
> benefit to theosophists wishing to have a better scientific understandingof 
> theosophical metaphysics, reading your off the wall comments and unfounded 
> opinions about theosophy and HPB, and arguing with you about them -- is a 
> complete waste of all our time."

My view:
Especially your use of the words "all our time" in the above, doesn't fit well for a hardcore Theosophist ! 

PATIENCE is also sometimes giving within theosophical circles etc..

(I could have said: Speak for your self, and don't drag others in to this, by using the phrase "all our time.").

Feel free to do your best on that...

from
Sufilight with Peace and Love...and some for ever patient rugrats...



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <leonmaurer@aol.com>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World What is the link to this "forum" ?


> What have labels or personalities got to do with scientific reasoning or 
> logical discussion?  
> 
> Did anyone ever say that theosophy was discussed or Blavatsky referred toon 
> scientific consciousness study forums?   
> 
> My view of consciousness and evolution argued or discussed on those forums is 
> based solely on the theory of ABC and other scientific theories such 
> Superstring/M-brane, relativity, quantum field, quantum 
> electro-chromodynamics, etc. -- much of which (although limited in scope)are 
> consistent with theosophical metaphysics.   
> 
> I only mention those comparisons or consistencies on Theosophical forums.On 
> the scientific consciousness study forums, I am careful to let my arguments 
> (about universal involution and evolution, based on zero-point origins, 
> coadunate, coenergetic fields of varying substantiality, and fundamental 
> laws) speak for themselves... And, try NOT to make non-sequitur references, 
> refer to irrelevant authorities, select quotes out of context, use fallacious 
> logic, or not specifically qualify "guesses" and "opinions." If you readthe 
> JCS-online letters I cross posted to this forum, you might comprehend this, 
> and not continue nit picking and making sly innuendoes about your opponent's 
> credibility. But then, since your arguments and assertions are based on those 
> forbidden propaganda techniques, I don't suppose you understand what 
> scientific reasoning or logical discussion is all about.
> 
> Again, I say, if you wish to discuss these topics intelligently, I suggest 
> you study modern and post modern physics as well as the theosophical 
> metaphysics presented by HPB in the Secret Doctrine, and make the comparisons 
> yourself. Without that knowledge and understanding, other that the possible 
> benefit to theosophists wishing to have a better scientific understandingof 
> theosophical metaphysics, reading your off the wall comments and unfounded 
> opinions about theosophy and HPB, and arguing with you about them -- is a 
> complete waste of all our time.   
> 
> LHM
> 
> 
> In a message dated 09/01/02 10:09:33 PM, brianmuehlbach@yahoo.com writes:
> 
> >Re."the Journal of Consciousness Study online forum, that argues a 
> > view of consciousness and evolution that's perfectly consistent with
> >the teachings of Cosmogenesis in the Secret Doctrine."
> >
> >
> >The "search Archive" at "JCS-online" shows
> >
> >0=zero messages containing the word Theosophy. 
> >
> >0=zero messages containing a refernce to even Blavatsky.
> 
>  
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
>