Theos-Talk Archives (July 2002 Message tt00190)

great website and very informative, thank you.

I read the Krishnamurti profile on the home page and
was particularly interested in the following sentence:

"Declaring that his only concern was to ‘set man
absolutely, unconditionally free’, he sought to
liberate man from his deep conditioning of sorrow,
fear, violence, and selfishness."

Although Krishnamurti's goal may have been to set men
free from their own inhibitions I doubt a man can ever
be "unconditionally" free. Can a man be free from the
economic system he finds himself? Can a man be free
from the social conventions of the community in which
he resides? Can a man escape from the political system
that surrounds him, whether it be a democracy or a
dictatorship?

If you consider the notion of the Monad unconditional
freedom seems more and more unattainable. Although I
am a Monad when I enter a bus, for instance, I am part
of that bus and have temporarily sacrificed my
freedom. When the bus is in motion I am completely at
the will of the bus and I have sacrificed my freedom
to the bus. Yes I can get off at any time but when the
bus is travelling at 100km/hr I would be most wise to
give up the ideal of unconditional freedom.

So all this rambling appears to be quite pedantic and
well really that is all it is. But we have to be sure
that when we are talking about freedom we are never
talking about absolute and unconditional freedom.
There will always be conditions because we are
entities that exist relative to other entities. This
in itself eliminates the notion of uncondtional
freedom.

mic


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