Theos-Talk Archives (July 2002 Message tt00161)

Hi all of you,

Thanks Frank for your email.
I read with interest the link : http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2000/lar_bad_guy_2710.html

Some views:

The following from the above page are putting LaRouche's efforts in a more strong light :

"Traditionally, as the case of the assassination of a J. Edgar Hoover-targetted Martin Luther King attests,[55] oligarchies and their menial lackeys do not wait until an insolent specimen becomes a serious threat to the oligarchy's arrangements, as Presidential pre-candidate Robert Kennedy did; the oligarchs tend to order them killed before they might have the chance to develop, to become a serious threat. With the oligarchs and their lackeys, that is partly a matter of instinct: the instinct to kill what they dislike. Among cleverer managers of the political herd, there is a more cultivated motive for such killings and kindred enterprises in culling the popular herd."

And [55] :

"[55] If you think seriously about the matter, Martin Luther King was the person best qualified, personally, to become President in 1968, and should have become President, had he lived, in 1972 or 1976. He had proven his capability of pulling most of the nation together for the purpose of justice for all of the people, a rare quality among candidates of the recent three decades."


This calls for some afterthought. I think so because of the time 1968, Kingand his very special situation, and the religious-political manner in which he acted.......King had rare qualities indeed...

Nixon - just make you laugh when compared....>:-) ("I am no crook !")
Try read King's Vietnam speech ! Well, try....
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/058.html (Speech)
http://www.therationalradical.com/dsep02/01/martin-king.htm (Speeches and quotes - making it clear, that King was also aiming at the economics of USA and other countries. But this website although interesting is not quite following King's ideas on non-voilence!)
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Lobby/2217/mlk.htm (Try for instance Real Player - audio - with "Beyond Vietnam" - at the bottom of the page. - The online text above has been edited.)

Here is an excerpt from King's speech: 
"I am convinced that if we are to get on the right side of the world revolution, we as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values. We must rapidly begin the shift from a "thing-oriented" society to a "person-oriented" society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rightsare considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered. " 
(beyond Vietnam 4th april 1967;) (Exactly - one year later he was shot, april 4th 1968).
(A personal remark: My big sister and one of her daughters have birthday onapril 4th.)

I wonder what the US-congress of today have on this excerpt. Even EU-countries and other countries could learn form this. 
What about some honest UN-meetings on the world-religions role in the worldof politics and greed ? 

I can of course not really agree with LaRouche - because I am a hardcore Theosophist. But there is certainly some issues of his, which deserves closerattention - while we carry on our work for peace. Especially the peace-issues...

Politicians of today are not doing strong enough efforts to deal with this very dangerous or problematic issue 'peace'. And even Religious leaders aredoing almost nothing.
God know's where such a situation will lead everyone....
And the media's - Tv's and Newspapers --- are hilarious.

The Internet is better. Where that will lead the young coming politicians, we can only guess. Try this one on this: http://www.euractiv.com/cgi-bin/cgint.exe/1266977-431?targ=1&204&OIDN=1503733&-home=home
(At the july 2002 Youth EU-Convention-meeting a group condemmed EU for certain issues :
"One quarter of the Youth Convention members signed a protest memorandum, condemning the Youth Convention as "unrepresentative and undemocratic" due to the way it elected its leadership. This group claims that Youth Convention was dominated by the Youth Forum, who has the Presidium and the majority of the Youth Convention members. The dissident group warned that the Youth Convention has "limited legitimacy" and is "unrepresentative of the young people of Europe". " )
That adults arranged it to be undemocratic - just shows the state of affairs.

It is good to know, that the Masters exists and that the Avatar-principle exists. It is good to know, that the masters and the avatar or avatar-principle are not fooled so easily.
There are really spiritual forces at play - also in the political areas.

What do the readers have on the "Dugpas" (the negative forces) of today incertain political and financial cirlces ?
Are there Clairvoyants employed in different national "Intelligence" circles ? 
(The US-Senate seems interested in ESP and parapsychology - while they grant money for research etc.)

You probably know H. P. Blavatsky several times stated, that one shouldn't underestimate the work of the Dugpa's and their existence.

I will have to say, that if a proper number of people would build up - a religious-political agenda - backing the ideas of Martin Luther King Jr. thisPlanet would feel more comfortable. A new Congress - with 3 parties would do better than the present one.
Or maybe a more Theosophical agenda could do the trick ?
But I am not sure, that this would be the best solution. People have a tendency to learn or react slowly on this planet.

Non-voilence pays !
And Wall-Street hearing it - shake all over.

Run for Avatar-hood !

The above are just views among many.

Feel free to comment...

from
M. Sufilight with peace and love...



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Reitemeyer" <dhyana@web.de>
To: <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:23 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Germany: to protect or not to protect?


> Steve:
> It may not be apparent from Germany, but Lyndon Larouche is a well known nut
> case.
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> Bart:
> And felon; he spent time in jail for credit card fraud.
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> Frank:
> COMPARE this with LaRouche's side of the story and how the US Nazi
> establishment tried to assassinate him at:
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> http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2000/lar_bad_guy_2710.html
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> http://www.schillerinstitute.org/exon/ramseyclark_ltr_95.html
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