Theos-Talk Archives (July 2002 Message tt00132)

July 13 2002


Dear Leon and Larry:

I enjoyed reading your responses to the questions Bart asked
concerning action at the New York UNITED LODGE OF
THEOSOPHISTS.

I would agree with them.

Best wishes,

Dallas

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-----Original Message-----
From: leonmaurer@aol.com [mailto:leonmaurer@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 1:26 PM
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Theos-World RE: [bn-study] Re: Seth/Enos
(Enoch)


In a message dated 07/13/02 10:35:44 AM, bartl@sprynet.com
writes:

>dalval14@earthlink.net wrote:
>> There are no "caps" ever placed on discussion and
>> consideration of any subjects in Theosophy or at the U L
Ts.
>> How can there be? The DECLARATION of U L T encourages
only
>> that free aspect of study that volunteers alone generate.
>> Those are the terms of BROTHERHOOD.
>
> Then the ULT in New York City is in violation; I have
heard many people
>claim that they were thrown out of meetings for asking
questions that
>were not part of some official list.

Please let us know how many and who are such people that
have made such
claims? And, what were the questions asked?

I once voluntarily helped to throw a troublemaker out of a
Lodge meeting who
asked questions that implied theosophists practiced
Satanism, and that sexual
orgies were held in the building after the meetings -- which
he insisted on
attending. That was our individual decision. What would
you have done under
the circumstances -- especially, if your or your friend's
children were in
the audience?

As for as an "official" list of permissible questions, I
never heard of such
a thing during my family's 40 odd years of attending
teachers meetings,
lectures, and study classes. (And, one of our family's self
determined
decisions, was to never sign up for formal membership in any
organization,
including ULT -- although their membership card gives one no
obligation other
than that which is self determined.) Even though we had
been studying and
teaching there for so many years, no one has ever asked us
to sign up, pay
dues, show our credentials, or leave. That's true freedom
and brotherhood.
That's why we decided to attend ULT for our theosophical
study in the first
place. Our voluntary contributions have, as everyone
else's, always been
both unasked for and anonymous -- (except to those that
accepted them).

Can't remember how many times, I argued with a lecturer that
they answered a
theosophical question wrong, offered a contradictory answer
reinterpreting
HPB, and didn't get thrown out.:- ) I still claim that most
theosophists
(even some of the old timer teachers) do not understand
reincarnation or
karma (seeing it as a linear process like climbing a single
ladder) -- since
they have no idea of the nonlinear, multidimensional
"entanglement" of
zero-point emanations or their accompanying radiation's.
(Such
simplification, however, being necessary for some, for fear
of being
misunderstood, I suppose, in open lecture halls where minds
of all caliber's
are in the same audience.) But, in my view, there's nothing
wrong with
teaching the whole esoteric truths, even if it goes over
most people's heads.
The few students who get it, will then come to talk about
it after the
meetings -- which is all well and good.

> If a pipe breaks at a ULT Lodge, and the local laws
require that it be
>fixed, who does the legal notice to fix it go to?

Whoever has volunteered to take care of the building
maintenance. If it
needs hands on work, there's always a plumber member around
to take care of
it (or someone to volunteer to pay for it). Please note
that everything in
ULT is handled solely by voluntary contribution. As Lao Tse
said,
"Everything that needs to get done will get done." Is it any
wonder, then,
why ULT has one of the most comfortable and pleasant meeting
places and
extensive library in a luxurious upper East Side town house
neighborhood --
without any officers, dues or collections?

LHM