Theos-Talk Archives (July 2002 Message tt00051)

Thanks for detailed analysis.

The physical security issue relating to the recent terrorist attempts seems 
to be just a symptom. While one cannot get total security, one can probably 
minimize the threats by addressing the root cause of the problem, which 
cannot be done by technology addressing only the symptoms. Only a creative 
political solution is likely to yield effective results.

When I saw your msg, I was remined of a talk in which Krishnamurti was 
saying that there is no such thing as security in life.

When I discuss with my clients about asset protection issues relating to 
law suits, I tell them the famous mythological story from India.

There was a King who prayed for years and one day God manifested before him 
and asked him what boon he wanted. The King did not want to die. So he 
asked that he not be killed either during day or night, nor by a human 
being or an animal, nor inside a building or outside a building. God 
granted the boon and the King went on his way assured he will never die.

Finally the appointed day of death came. God manifested as Man-Animal, 
upper part of the being Lion and lower part being Man and came at dusk and 
went to the Palace where the King was in at that time and dragged the King 
and laid his body at the front door with one half inside the Palace and the 
other half outside and was disemboweled and thus killed.

mkr


At 10:58 AM 7/4/02 -0400, Larry F Kolts wrote:
> I have followed this discussion with much interest though it seems
> somewhat far removed from Theosophy.
>
> 1-Mueller was indead retained as Gestapo chief. In 1943 Hitler realized a
> major dream of him by finalizing the consolidation of all German police
> agencies under a central department. This was the RSHA or Reich Security
> Main Office headed by Himmler's #2 man Richard Heydrich. The Gestapo
> became one department in this organization, alonf with the SD
> (Intelligence Dept) the Kripo (Criminal Police) and the Orpo (Order
> Police).
> Mueller was in attendence at the infamous Wanasee Conference where these
> SS leaders, Heydrich, Mueller, Eichmann presented the "Final Solution" to
> the occupation governors. Nice bunch!
>
> 2-While the Third Reich was clearly a tyranny and the US is a republic,
> there a analogs to these various German groups, at least in basic
> function. The SD relates to the CIA, while the Gestapo is equivilant to
> the FBI. The Kripo is all the state and local detective departments,
> while the Orpo is the traffic, crowd control, etc. Until now we have had
> no analog to the RSHA. But now we have this proposed new federal
> department to oversee all internal security. Hmmm...
>
> 3-Recent polls have indicated that most Americans are willing to
> sacrifice a portion of their freedoms for greater security. yet all the
> leader recognize that while we may stop terrorists here and there, some
> will get through. If a little (in size) nation such as Israel can't stop
> the almost daily terrorist attacks, how can we?
>
> 4-In our individual lives, we also look for security in part. But it is
> never really there. We try to safeguard our homes, but fire, flood,
> tornados and earthquakes and quickly brush that all aside. We try to
> protect our loved ones but ultimately all are taken. Financial security
> is likewise a perilous thing. And as for love...
>
> 5-So what does Theosophy teach in this regard? Why are we so anxious to
> protect Maya? What can we do to overcome this?
>
> Larry Kolts
>
> > >My memory of the events may be inaccurate, but I
> > >thought when Himmlet pushed Goering out of the way and
> > >took over the Gestapo Mueller was dismissed.
>
> > No. On the contrary Mueller was advanced in rank and salery for his
> > good
> > work.
> > Frank
> >
>
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